Is Tyson Fury Still A H2H Goat ?

Out of nostalgia I watched Holmes-Norton back to back with Fury-N’gannu. It was like watching two different sports. One fight featured two skilled, highly conditioned and extremely determined warriors. The other featured a crude but willing novice fighting a fat, out of conditioned slob in a sloppy and mauling eye sore of a fight.

Rose coloured glasses sometimes exist for an obviously apparent reason.

 

I always keep a pair nearby, in case of emergency (and last night was just that).

 

Good Post

 

Personally I believe Fury is past his best. The slope he is standing on is getting slippery and there’s some hungry guys waiting below to get a piece…or several pieces… of him.
After what I witnessed last night I can only see him getting worse because Father Time catches up with everybody sooner or later, and it’s not as if TF has kept himself in peak fitness throughout his career. Taking drugs and getting fat then detoxing and losing several stones costs you eventually…and usually you start paying that cost in your 30s. Time to pay the toll Tyson, then get the hell outa dodge!

But one more thing this fading champ needs to do before riding off into the sunset…fight Usyk and either end his career as a glorious unbeaten undisputed champion…or not… in what would be a career defining fight for both of these aging combatants.
Then win lose or draw…retire.

For good this time!

 

How can we make that assessment though given his resume? He's largely ducked the top contenders of his own era and looked very mediocre despite this managing to flirt with disaster vs Wallin, Wilder, and again vs Ngannou.

 

My feelings exactly

 

This is a reasonable view and just as likely as Fury not having prepared properly for Ngannou. If one is to be realistic, it's probably a good bit of both elements.

Indeed, I can't see the stage of his career not factoring into Fury's performances. Coupled with what has been quite a poor couple of years, in terms of the level of performances, it's quite plausible that he's slid back considerably.

The acid test will be Usyk and then, as you suggest, should that fight eventually happen, Fury should probably retire as the undisputed champion…or not.

 

How would you rate Vitali K, head-to-head?

 

Ngl I’ve seen a couple.

 

Any news on how their treatment is going?

 

I only partially agree with this.

At his best, sure Fury could be a handful for many boxers throughout history. But even the best version of Fury is a little overrated. He has flaws, and some have been consistent throughout his entire career.

I do agree he has some Buster Douglas tendencies and is wildly inconsistent.

 

I've seen 5-7 guys on this site alone call him the goat multiple times.

Miniq says it every day.

 

No. Body language doesn't lie.

Fury was smirking, showboating, and confident before the knockdown. When he fell, all the light went out his face and he looked genuinely concerned and embarrassed. He had the exact same expression from the times Wilder dropped him. Even the way he fought changed. Fury was hesitant and respected Francis picking his shots more carefully and having more responsible defense.

None of that was an act. He was overconfident and then deflated like a balloon. It's all over his face.

 

I've written similar comments on Fury for years.