Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Fury gracious in defeat and that he didn't want to hear what Hearn had to say is completely understandable.
     
  2. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sucks, lots of untapped potential in France with all the Africans there.
    Could be a great boxing nation.
     
  3. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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  4. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Part of it is at a certain point in competitive sport genetics trump all. He's 6'4", 272 lbs while being chiseled out of marble insanely strong with decent cardio. Athlete's like that exist in other sports but they tend to not get into combat sports as their evident gifts get them pulled early on towards other sports.

    At an age when kids in the west would be chaperoned to soccer/football practice he was digging in sand mines in Africa. It's sheer luck a natural freak talent like that found his way into combat sports.
     
  5. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    True. There are potential topliners in other parts of the world too.
     
  6. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    And yet the man on top was declared the "winner", makes the sport of boxing look like a farce.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Yes because superficial facial damage is what determines who wins a fight.

    Get out of here.
     
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  8. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury need to go back to eating uncastrated boar meat an roadkill
     
  9. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    What's the difference between amateur and pro-boxing? the damage you're expected to inflict with your strikes in the pros is. The image more or else encapsulates the fight as a whole, it wasn't just one lucky shot Francis got off, he dominated the fight and looked like the real man in the ring there against another struggling to try to impose his will in vein.
     
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  10. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    How much better could his career have possibly gone, though? He's going to retire rich -brain intact- as maybe the top guy in his era.

    Whatever demons he might have won't manifest from the "what ifs" of boxing.
     
  11. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kinel love it
     
  12. cslb

    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    lol at “ wasn’t a vintage Tyson Fury performance”. That’s a non sequitur in my opinion . The heavyweight division really is garbage nowadays.
     
  13. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    Eating PEDs the right way, doing strong man stuff and a wrestling background helped a lot.

    Fury barely did any strong man stuff, combine the livestyle and the problem with staying in shape and likely goes between being on and off PEDs which can have crazy effects on performance.

    Also, Fury being the best clinch gamer says a lot about modern boxing. Old school boxer would **** on that. Combat athletes have so much time so I dont understand why they dont do more cross over trainings. Fury doing the right stuff and living the muay thai life training on a camp twice a day ala 6 days a week does wonder ... but its not really needed so who cares.
     
  14. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    It depends. Bigger man Conor couldnt bully old man Floyd in close quarters.
     
  15. steviebruno

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    Unless he has one hell of a makeup artist, I don't think that the fix was in. He underestimated his opponent and had a bad night. If fighters of today insist on fighting 1-2 times a year and not training in between, they are going to have trouble with people who train year round to hone their craft.

    Honest question: Was Francis a worse opponent than Leon Spinks was for Ali? I'm not entirely sure. But Fury still has the same chance to make things right.