Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    And yet the man on top was declared the "winner", makes the sport of boxing look like a farce.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Yes because superficial facial damage is what determines who wins a fight.

    Get out of here.
     
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  3. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury need to go back to eating uncastrated boar meat an roadkill
     
  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Tyson is a clown, but scoring fights by how the guys' faces are marked is the best detector to spot idiots whose parents are brothers.
     
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  5. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    What's the difference between amateur and pro-boxing? the damage you're expected to inflict with your strikes in the pros is. The image more or else encapsulates the fight as a whole, it wasn't just one lucky shot Francis got off, he dominated the fight and looked like the real man in the ring there against another struggling to try to impose his will in vein.
     
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  6. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    How much better could his career have possibly gone, though? He's going to retire rich -brain intact- as maybe the top guy in his era.

    Whatever demons he might have won't manifest from the "what ifs" of boxing.
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    He will retire filthy rich and brain intact. But after what he did yesterday there is no way for his legacy to be any other thing than a pile of ****. His reputation and his legacy will not recover from that, and what he did yesterday will be the first thing to appear in a boxing conversation about fury ALWAYS.

    I'm 100% sure the result was fixed. But being droped there and to stage that fight cost him his whole legacy and reputation. I hope he thinks that staging that fight was worth it, because if not such a fragile ego will not recover from that.
     
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  8. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kinel love it
     
  9. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol at “ wasn’t a vintage Tyson Fury performance”. That’s a non sequitur in my opinion . The heavyweight division really is garbage nowadays.
     
  10. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    Eating PEDs the right way, doing strong man stuff and a wrestling background helped a lot.

    Fury barely did any strong man stuff, combine the livestyle and the problem with staying in shape and likely goes between being on and off PEDs which can have crazy effects on performance.

    Also, Fury being the best clinch gamer says a lot about modern boxing. Old school boxer would **** on that. Combat athletes have so much time so I dont understand why they dont do more cross over trainings. Fury doing the right stuff and living the muay thai life training on a camp twice a day ala 6 days a week does wonder ... but its not really needed so who cares.
     
  11. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    It depends. Bigger man Conor couldnt bully old man Floyd in close quarters.
     
  12. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Unless he has one hell of a makeup artist, I don't think that the fix was in. He underestimated his opponent and had a bad night. If fighters of today insist on fighting 1-2 times a year and not training in between, they are going to have trouble with people who train year round to hone their craft.

    Honest question: Was Francis a worse opponent than Leon Spinks was for Ali? I'm not entirely sure. But Fury still has the same chance to make things right.
     
  13. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    Didnt watch the other two fights but doing that against a what? 40 lbs smaller opponent isnt really impressive.

    Wilder got freakish strength but Fury was in good shape and 40lbs is just too much.
     
  14. VOXDEI

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    Premature - if he went and schooled/Ko'd Usyk his legacy would be intact. Ngannu's legacy would be massively elevated.
     
  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    No, that's not true. Anyone arguing with miniq in the future the first thing he will do is to say "stfu your boy was used like a mop by a zero fights mma guy", and it will be like that no matter how his fight vs Usyk ends.

    And I repeat that I think that Fury staged that fight. That the result was agreed to be a "close fight" before hand, and that fury didnt actually try to win that fight as he should. But staging that fight has costed fury his whole legacy and his whole reputation, that's the truth.
     
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