Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Frankly, I think Francis could be put to sleep by Wilder and to be honest, that jaw he has, I don't think it's as good as they say and you'll soon know why I say it... I sincerely think that Fury humiliated boxing by being a lazy drug addict without any type of discipline... total unconscious
     
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  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    No, I've written many posts about it, and even created a thread, but my posts have been all merged into the fury vs gnannu trash thread.

    To start with, and the most simple thing to observe, gnannou didnt even try to KO fury when he knocked down him. All he threw since the count finished until the round ended was to one jab to the body (one and only one jab to the body!! what a joke!). Period. He threw nothing more for the rest of the round. NOTHING AT ALL, you can look for the video and check it yourself. That's the most obvious hint to suspect that this fight was staged and the result fixed.

    There are many more, like fury not following up his feints, specially vs a ganndou who has no ****ing clue about how to react to a boxing feint. The whole point of a feint is the follow up. Fury could have destroyed gnannou right there in the place just by abusing the fact that gnannou always reseted in every fury's faint. A Huge mistake that costs you the KO when you are fighting a champion, even a bad one.

    There are many more hints, but I'm tired of writing them and see them deleted or merged into neverland thread, I wont do it anymore, but anyone who knows about boxing should suspect that this figth was staged, at the very very very very least the fight is fishy as all hell. You can paraphrase it as "it's show", if you prefer.
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, Fury sold out the whole sport of boxing
     
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  4. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Watch this video. It's the evidence how strong a former HW fringe contender Arthur Szpilka is.

    Mariusz Pudzianowski, a former 5-time World Champion as a strongman, tried to put him on the ground. But Szpilka held his own and did pretty well.

    And dare I say Mariusz Pudzianowski even in his mid 40s is physically stronger than Ngannou, no doubt about it.

    Unfortunately it didn't end well for Mariusz as Szpilka weathered that attack and knocked him out with a counter.

    But it is worth watching. Szpilka's chin is extremely glass, but his strength is real.

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  5. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Randy Couture beat Toney with wrestling. Toney's only chance was to keep Couture on the outside and and catch him coming in if possible. Couture was an national level wrestler, once Couture got a hold of him it was over. You can't train for a few months and think you can compete with a true wrestler.
     
  6. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    It was an exhibition that he looked bad in and Ngannou played his part better; that is all. No different than Tyson refusing to punch Roy in the face, really. The guy is about to fight for the undisputed title; why would he go all out here?
     
  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mma fans won't ever let it go
    Naseem.hamed could come back and beat Francis, it makes no difference

    Fury could also knock out usyk and Aj on the same night and nothing changes

    That fat oaf has disgraced the entire sport. Losing to Ngannou is worse than Ducking Usyk imo

    It is certainly much lower than any of his highs. If Fury brought about World peace? I still don't think it's enough

    I still am in shock thar lump got beat by an mma guy?? Lol

    I don't care how gifted Francis supposed to be, that is an actual disgrace
     
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  8. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    He got stunned/hurt a few times from a jab here and there by a wrestler and gane. dead Stipe almost did the impossible but the size was too much and then he runned like an idiot right into ngannous fist.

    Thats the only things i remember.
     
  9. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Spinks was a gold medalist and the younger man, so yeah this is much worse
    Had Francis 3 or 4 fights against decent opposition first? It would still be bad, but not quite as damning

    Fury lost a fight against a guy making his professional boxing debut and not a young man either

    I don't care how great he is at mma, how much power he carries, or how much natural talent he possess.

    Fury can never recover from that and it will be the first thing fans think of when they discuss legacy

    He let the sport down and he let himself down

    It's karma for being greedy and taking a sideshow and overlooking his opponent
     
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  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    That one's probably the "top fighter" Francis has the best odds of beating... Because he's massively overrated with a resume of 99% nobodies and his power is somewhat overrated.

    Yes Ngannou is hittable, but he's got a better chin than anyone Wilder's knocked out and he hits hard enough to knock out a guy that's been beaten up twice by a renowned pillowfist.

    Probably still slightly favour Wilder, but Francis would have a chance at least.
     
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  11. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You think it was staged?
    I don't agree. He is a laughing stock and a few more (many) millions will never erase it

    He was just rubbish and lost to a better man
     
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  12. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    But he won though? I don’t understand your point.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Muhhahahhahahah as i says Fury is featherfisted bum.
    Ngannou literally mopped the floor with him. He beats him pretty much for the majority of the rounds.
    Fury was scared to dead to throw a single arm punch, aka his usual jabs and power shots.
    Absolutely pathetic.
     
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  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    The Boxer launching an elbow strike on the MMA fighter. Pure class. Luckily for Francis he's taken plenty of better elbows in the past.
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Serious question. He did much better than expected vs Fury. Could Ngannou hypothetically have defeated guys like Floyd Patterson, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey in the ring?

    Many wouldn't pick them to beat Fury, but a 1 fight novice in Ngannou nearly beat him. Granted, Ngannou is 270 pounds but he's not a pro boxer. I expected Fury to stop him like Mayweather stopped McGregor a few years ago