Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. yolopolo

    yolopolo New Member Full Member

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    I wonder why he throw it it, it doesnt make much sense. What a waste of movement.

    Maybe a sighn of CTE?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I wouldn't
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Wouldn't what? Pick him to stop an ATG smaller heavyweight?
     
  4. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    At a certain point sheer physics comes into play. Francis is 6'4", 272 lbs of muscle with decent cardio who is used to taking kicks and elbows to the head.

    Nobody under 200 lbs in history could actually beat him in a fight.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He was desperate. That's why. And he is a dirty scumbbag. He prolly hoped to cut Ngannou, as with elbow it's super easy to cut someone.
    Should have been deducted a point straight away and strong warning for holding.
    He is pathetic.
    Hope he can't get out of the Saudi contract and is forced to fight Usyk on December 23th, and we never heard from Fury again.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't mean to be a grammar Nazi, but do you mean "what is the biggest ATG heavy..." or "what is the biggest small ATG heavy..."

    Smallest would be Bob Fitzimmons or Sam Langford.
     
  7. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    I also think it was a desperate try to hurt ngannou because fury realized he is on the very edge of loosing this fight .

    The fact ngannou ate this elbow without any impression makes me believe his head is build of concrete .

    He is a stunning athlete .
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Copybook execution but wrong sport.

    Great chin too.
     
  9. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ngannou's head is like an anvil.

    Never looked phased by a strike in his MMA fights.

    He took a bunch of clean shots from Stipe Miocic that have knocked other HWs out cold in their first fight.
     
  10. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you gone completely mental or are you having the time of your life?
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    90% of the world thinks Ngannou won and was screwed. Bad decisions happen throuhg incompetence and corruption.
     
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  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nah, that didn't happen and I'm a guy that believes (believed) in Fury as a fighter

    He lost and Bricktop assured him the judges will do what needs to be done
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You aren't being a grammar Nazi but a grammar Communist

    what is the biggest small ATG heavy..." Is what I mean
     
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  14. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Never has the term "perception is reality" applied more. Francis is the People's Champ, he was the victor to 90% of people out there. It's completely irrelevant to the masses the box-rec tick Fury got from the fight.

    Fury's legacy is now shot too. Even in the event he beats Usyk, he'll be seen as a big man beating up on a much smaller man, a bully who couldn't get it done against a man of his own size.
     
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  15. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jerry Quarry, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Floyd Patterson (with time he became incredibly slick, and master of boxing in a tight circle.) Are the ones that would outpoint him. Quarry would likely enjoy entering the ring with another hard-hitting, limited (even more than usual) slugger, especially if there are people telling him he will get knocked out cold.

    Puncher's chance is there of course, but you can say that about any big hitter in history, really.

    Joe Louis was 196 when he demolished Primo Carnera (6'6 260lbs) and barely above 200lbs the two times hwne he beat Buddy Baer (6'6, 230-250lbs guy) though Louis isn't that small. Jack Dempsey earned his reputation partially by demolishing the old Willard (6'6 and a half, 245lbs), and is an elusive, lightning fast, killer puncher.

    Rocky Marciano is the one I see crashing against him, though with enough guts, chin, and rubbernecking, he might simply exhaust Francis, especially over fifteen.
     
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