Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Maybe Whyte, he was garbage. The rest are clearly better until we see more from Francis.

 

The discipline, heart, and great physical attributes can take you a long way in modern heavyweight division, especially since Francis has experience, and clearly a decent feel of body mechanics.

That being said, he still has to show himself against the likes of Ajagba, Dubois, or Anderson, before being considered a serious challenge against active, prime top contenders. I wouldn't pick him over Efe, let alone Bakole, Makhmudov, or Jalolov, but I would very much love to see Ngannou spent the remaining of his fighting career in boxing, possibly proving me wrong.

 

Here we go again with a new flavor-of-the-week.

 

Goes on to school 2x title challenger Breazeale (top 10 Joshua and Wilder opponent)

Agreed on Whyte being scared of losing the Fury payday against Wallin, and he showed himself good against Gassiev, but the Breazeale part is a strange wording.

Being in the top 10 opposition of modern heavyweights rarely means much, especially when we are talking about Wilder, whose level of opposition drops drastically after Fury and Ortiz. Joshua has more depth (Usyk, Parker, Klitschko, Whyte, O.M Povetkin, Takam, Ruiz, O.M Pulev, Jermaine Franklin, Robert Helenius and the likes of Molina and Martin) but even then, he has fought maybe twelve opponents whose names are worth remembering with the B and C list fighters generously included. Not to mention the two times title challenger Dominic lost every round (?) to Joshua before being stopped in the 7th, and was stopped in one by Wilder, before disappearing for twenty months or so, and losing to Wallin in what is very likely the last fight of his career.

 

He had a 12 week fat camp, not a training camp.

 

Yeh, a 12 week fat camp, again!
cos he has zero discipline, nada, none!

Thinks he can just get fat, do another fat camp and get the Work done, it'll all catch up in the end and make him look foolish.

Oops, it just did!!!

Lol

 

He's clearly been cruising since Wilder II, I think.

By the time of the Wallin fight under Davison, he was already struggling to maintain the relatively strict fitness routine and diet. Complaints of 'overtraining' and being 'under weight' were coming in from him and his mong father. They tried to justify the 270+ weight once ditching Davison and he's been getting fatter and sloppier since.

He's only a little taller than Wlad, lankier, and so shouldn't weigh much more.

The sad truth for Fury fans is that if he actually had discipline, he'd be lean and significantly faster than he already is for a SHW, plus have more endurance. He'd be quite a bit better, really.

 

What a lot of people failed to consider (myself included) in their evaluation of Ngannou Vs Fury is that the Heavyweight division has never really been about boxing, it's always been massively overrated in regards to boxing ability.

The Heavyweight division has always been about physical attributes Uber Alles, it's the freak show division. It's the ONLY division where the "This boxer should school this MMA fighter" logic doesn't work as well because most of the boxers IN THE DIVISION can't ****in box anyway and solely rely on physical attributes.

Before anyone starts shouting from the clouds and says "modern boxing hath become like this" this has been true since the time of Rocky Marciano. Undersized man with T-Rex arms, limited skills and balance so bad that the crowd started laughing at him after he tripped over his own feet (I'm not joking this actually happened). Yet he had 20 rounds of stamina, an iron chin and knockout power, so he went 49-0.

Similarly, Wilder and Joyce to name names few look like absolutely phucking horrible from a boxing skill perspective, yet they're top 10, and most would argue top 5.

Even if Ngannou is just as skilled or even a bit less skill than a Wilder or a Joyce, he likely has one of the best chins in the division, is likely one of the hardest hitters in the division and is without a doubt physically the strongest with likely the best clinch game. Those overwhelming physical attributes combined with some fortunate match making and I feel like that should take him a long way.

Hell, if the belts are vacated after Fury or Usyk retires and he gets lucky I don't see why he wouldn't be able to be a champion. That's how Jared Anderson is planning on becoming champion and he ****in sucks.

 

12 weeks doing what? fat as and arms like tooth picks. He is still young yet looked like a shop worn 60 year old.

 

He's looked exactly like that since post Wlad. He actually looked in better shape in the Ngannou fight than for the White 3 and Wilder 3 fights.

 

I think we need to see Ngannou vs Wallin.

 

A bunch on nonsenses. Ngannou has a glaring weaknesses, he has zero cardio, literally throw 5 punches per round, has slow feet, his hand speed is beyond average, it's 37+ and outside of his power, he has nothing else really.

He is going to get expose big time in his next fight, if it's against anyone meaningful.
I hope AJ fights and stretches him, going to laugh so hard at some people on here.

 

I was just thinking of the irony of Fury's gameplan. Throwing elbows, trying to clinch fight he was trying to out MMA a literal MMA champion haha

 

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"a non-staged fight. It wont happen, ofc, that guy will never ever step in the ring again."

We'll see. I'd say it's a near-certainty Ngannou will be back for another mega payday, he's now a top 10 WBC contender.