Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Just because he was competitive against an inactive, drug-addled, out of shape Fury doesn't mean he's some world beater."

    This was the exact same argument people made with Wallin.

    "Whyte's going to KO him"

    *Whyte ducks*

    "Gassiev's going to KO him"

    *Gassiev loses*

    Chisora would be a perfect next opponent for Ngannou, see if Ngannou passes that test with flying colours.
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This will not age well.

    He will fight a low ranked person once he fully switches to boxing and will get his face boxed off.
     
  3. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People said the same thing about Joyce's chin and Zhang cracked it twice.

    I'll bet you money on any fight Ngannou has against any of the top HWs not named Tyson Fury. You seem so confident in him winning all those fights we can make them even money bets.
     
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  4. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never thought Whyte would beat him. Whyte is garbage, he lost to a shot, old Povetkin by KO into the Shadow Realm.

    I've never seen Fury look so bad and I don't think it was just Ngannou's performance. Fury looked slow and out of shape. He didn't look sharp at all. Watching the fight, I was thinking maybe it was fixed but I couldn't come up with a reason. The most logical answer is Fury is finished and would now lose to most, if not all in the top 1-15 at HW. His nemesis, Wilder might even KO him if they fought for a 4th time.
     
  5. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't trust boxing officials. Francis has to beat his opponents and the judges. Boxing is rigged against him, we both know that. That is why he will always be a huge underdog. He needs to win convincingly. He could have knocked out Fury on Saturday and the ref and judges would rule it a no contest .
     
  6. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has more power? A spinning wheel kick from a hw kickboxer going fast speed or a hook ?

    Tyson landed his right hand flush on francis and it looked like it tickled him. Even the elbow had no effect. That is just another Saturday for him, his pain threshold is off the charts . Put Zhang with Gane and have him eat those same kicks , he'll be crying on the floor.

    Francis just needs more practice to tighten up his game, better sparring partners and he is in contention with Usyk.
     
  7. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only guys that beat him, they have to play paddy cake boxing like fury and run behind the jab and clinch, the boring style of Lennox Lewis , Fury, and Wlad are the only way boxers beat him.

    Tell me who will beat him for real? as in square up and exchange fire with fire.
     
  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "I never thought Whyte would beat him."

    That's cool but Whyte was a clear 70-30 favourite against Wallin, the A-side, in London. 12 months and a KO defeat to Fury later he scraped past Franklin, who gave Joshua a decent 12 round fight.

    Prime Povetkin had a back and forth war over 10 with Takam, who wasn't as good as Whyte if you compare their mutual opponents (Joshua, Povetkin 1, Chisora, Parker).

    "The most logical answer is Fury is finished"

    Fury has declined massively. But Ngannou has some insane attributes and can beat a lot of guys.
     
  9. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    Let's be real

    Prime Foreman destroys Ngannou

    Prime Tyson flattens him

    Don't act like Ngannou is undestructable against the best boxers of all time.
     
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  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How would Ngannou do against Patterson, Frazier and Norton?
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

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    Joyce, Makhmudov, Bakole, Zhang, Sanchez, etc

    All of them would fight him head on

    Wilder would just straight up take his head off. Ngannou threw like 7 punches a round and he is slow. I don't know wtf Fury was doing. Looked like he threw the fight just to ensure another payday or some goofy ****

    Could beat aj tho
     
  12. Usyk is the best

    Usyk is the best Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know. But I certainly pick Frazier against Ngannou. Frazier wasn't glass cannon. I think his chin was better than Fury's

    Hell, he was dropped only by two opponents in his career (Foreman and Bonavena).
     
  13. Redbeard7

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    See? Even you can't pick two of those three ATG's over Ngannou with a straight face because you know that Ngannou's physical attributes are probably way too much.
     
  14. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As if Tyson and Forman never went to decision with anyone.

    We haven't seen Francis get hurt at all. Its speculation at this point. Some fighters just don't get hurt badly. That doesn't mean they don't lose. The only guy who can drop Francis is Wilder, but Wilder could get bullied in the clinch like Fury did to him.
     
  15. Redbeard7

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    The consensus on the forum (for what that's worth lol) is that 2023 Ngannou is better than a 2014 Chisora. The "journeyman" who would give Usyk a tougher test at heavyweight than Joshua the first time, as well as a better fight than any cruiser save Briedis. Usyk had a hard time dealing with Chisora's pressure and the 3 stone weight deficit, even though he was levels above in skill.