Ngannou vs Dubois

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  1. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest here, Dubois wouldn't last 6 rounds with even an untrained Tyson Fury. Regardless, Ngannou isn't going to fight the poor man's AJ, when he could fight the real one for 10x the purse.
     
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    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "So ur saying only those with long reach can jab??"

    It's a massive advantage. Long arms are also very helpful for landing power punches.

    Ali and Holmes were very tall and long for their eras, they could hit you with a jab at a range where you couldn't hit them. Mayweather had a very long reach, give him Pacquiao arms and suddenly his jab would be ineffective. Lewis and Wlad dominated from range with a height and reach advantage, so on and so forth. Wlad admitted that he struggled badly with Fury's range advantage. The rangy Tony Thompson arguably gave Wlad his most competitive fight between Peter 1 (imo a worse version of Ngannou) and Fury. Whereas the likes of Chambers and Chagaev (sub-6' in reality, blown up cruisers too) couldn't do anything.
     
  3. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I hate to say it but Ngannou has some of Joyce's attributes and he beat Dubois so I go Ngannou.
     
  4. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Apparently Dubois and Okolie had very competitive spars. Imagine what Ngannou would do to Okolie.
     
  5. L.Papp

    L.Papp New Member banned Full Member

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    Dubois by KO
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Ngannou may struggle with winning rounds but eventually he lands the big punch and **** Dubois up since Dubois is really a bad fighter.
     
  7. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So is ability... So what happened was ngannou was able to take 2 rounds of a fat, non prepared tyson fury and now he is an able hw??!

    Na, not at all.

    He will fight 2 more times at most and get whooped

    Valuev had a massivley longer reach than Haye and didn't land a single jab on him.
     
  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On a fat, lazy non prepared fury.

    If they rematch fury will destroy him.
     
  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "able to take 2 rounds of a fat, non prepared tyson fury and now he is an able hw??!"

    Ngannou won 3 rounds according to Boxrec, scored a KD and did most of the damage. He showed more than enough to KO a chinny quitting scrub like Dubois.

    We'll see how he does in due course. I have a feeling this will be another Wallin situation.

    "Valuev had a massivley longer reach than Haye and didn't land a single jab on him."

    Terrible example! That was a close fight where Haye landed very little himself. Valuev's size, strength and durability made him competitive with the 3rd most successful cruiser-heavy of all time and Valuev was a lot slower and less powerful than Ngannou.
     
  10. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its even very easy to see Francis head is shaped like a block and has a thick skull.

    Polynesians like Tua and Hunt have big heads .

    good chins are genetic , you have a few civilians out there who could eat a baseball bat to the head and not be bothered.

    I don’t think most really even know what they are saying half the time. they just repeat phrases and biases without actually verifying if it’s true.
    Fury has always looked fat in last couple of fights, rematch also assumes Francis won’t be much better. He’s going to fix his holes and he’s got more money behind him with better class of training partners to mimic Fury.
     
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  11. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok he one one more round than I said... Big deal.

    Its just a terrible example in your book cos it makes your point irrelevant, we were talking about jabs not the fight.
     
  12. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You took one word of my statement and ignored the rest.
     
  13. Redbeard7

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    Some nerd that counts punches had Valuev ahead of Haye 70-60, so suffice to say Valuev landed plenty of jabs.

    Ngannou vs Joyce
    Ngannou vs Chisora
    Ngannou vs Whyte
    Ngannou vs Okolie

    Who wins these matchups?
     
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  14. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what the lazy part? 12 weeks is lazy. even post fight he admitted that he ignored the pundits and trained hard for this fght.
     
  15. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah you believe that if you want. Mr fury has always been a beacon of truth