Fury lack of power

Really good post. Autistic...sure. But great. Thanks!

 

My reading entirely, thought he would pick up 30 million dollars for a 10 round spar, 4 weeks into camp and came unstuck.

He looked off at the weigh in. I think he saw Ngannou and it dawned on him he was in with 19 stone of muscle, fit, sharp and ready to fight and realised he hadn't done enough.

Then looked like he was shitting bricks in the ring walk. Sat on that throne his knee was twitching like ****. Knew he was in deep water.

He had no power because he's 20 stone of fat right now, nothing on his legs at all so everything he did was wading through treacle. Come the Usyk fight you'll see something completely different. There'll be calls for an Ngannou rematch following a good, solid performance and he'll call him out but it will never happen.

 

"Fury (202 cm.) has a 69% KO ratio across 29 fights against 215+ lbs opponents: higher than Whyte, Ruiz and Povetkin (as well as Frazier, Norton and Shavers), despite facing higher quality and more durable opposition and turning pro at 20 after only 35 amateur bouts"

Cunningham and Wilder have been KO'd three times in 86 pro fights, with Fury getting all of the KO's. Povetkin and Ortiz never came close to dropping Hammer and they weren't backfoot boxing.

I agree that Fury isn't an especially big puncher for this era but "light hitter" is ridiculous. Wilder had been dropped just once in 43 pro fights prior to Fury 2 and he showed a tremendous ability to take punishment while staying on his feet against KO artist Ortiz. Yet Fury was able to drop him with a single overhand right to the temple and right hook to the ear in the 3rd round of their 2nd and 3rd fights. Fury is especially good at breaking eardrums, as Scott and Wilder can attest. He hurt Wallin to the body more than "vicious body punching KO artist" Gassiev did and put Wilder down with a body shot.

"Wilder has no fear of taking a punch. He is wild, he is very powerful, very dangerous and very fast.”

“He’s just so big, he would’ve caught me in the end, rendering me unconscious after 7 or 8 rounds." - Tony Bellew, 2017/2018

“One thing also no-one really mentions is Deontay Wilder’s punch resistance. He can take a shot. I was giving him some digs; I’ve buzzed him a bit and he’s been back wanting more. Not only is it a good chin, his recovery power is great, most people you hit them with one shot their legs go a little bit and they’re not quite the same. He’s straight back on it.” - David Haye, 2020

One could also argue that Lewis or Wlad were "light hitters" based on all of the guys they failed to drop/stop, even some "vulnerable" guys.

 

Fury and Wilder were a match made in heaven in a lot of ways.

Wilder was given the self proclaimed title of biggest puncher ever (only half decent opponent he has knocked out is Ortiz)

Fury looked like a big puncher and that he had a great chin in taking these shots.

The reality is Fury isn’t a big puncher. He is huge so naturally he has a bit of pop but I think he fell in love with his own power. His main strength is his awkwardness. He uses his size and weight very well.

 

This says more about Wilder than Fury. Remember Wilder has never beaten a prime top 10 fighter under 40.

 

To be fair, only Fury and Usyk have out of the entire division.

 

Joshua beat a prime Joseph Parker who was an undefeated world champion and ranked in the top 5 at the time. Andy Ruiz Jr was also in the top 5 and prime when Joshua beat him.

 

Joseph Parker was never among the top ten best in the world; I don't really care where he was ranked. Did Joshua and Parker lay a glove on one another? Andy Ruiz wasn't top ten, either. In fact, that's the reason why he was chosen at short notice, because he was a safe bet. To say that Ruiz, who ballooned in weight (from already being morbidly obese) was in his prime, is a play on words, at best!

The reality is that both Parker and Ruiz barely threw a punch at Joshua. You could literally throw a prime Ali and Foreman in there with Joshua based on true name value, but if they are beyond **** on the night, then what does it count for? They were ****.

 

Name the 10 heavyweights in 2018 before he fought Joshua who were ranked above him then. Can't believe you said that. Makes it weirder when everyone on here lost their marbles when Joyce beat a much worse version of Parker than Joshua beat.

 

How can anybody take seriously what you're saying when you've just claimed the Parker who fought Joshua was better than the one who fought Joyce?

...the one who actually came to throw a punch?

Neither Parker nor Ruiz threw a punch, and these are the two wins you're lauding. You do realise the whole point of boxing is to throw punches, and if you don't, you're defeating the purpose and your performance can't be very good, right? I should've stuck you on ignore after you claimed 300lbs Ruiz who also didn't throw a punch was a prime Ruiz.

By the way actual "prime Ruiz" wasn't even very good.

Popping you on ignore to give the forum a chance.

 

[url]https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_2017[/url]
As of the end of 2017, Joseph Parker was ranked at 3 by the Ring Magazine. Joshua beat him 3 months later in dominant fashion - Parker was out of his depth. Not sure why he put on so much weight for the Joyce fight. Povetkin was also ranked 4th but moved up to 3 after Joshua beat Parker. Joshua then defeated Povetkin ranked 3 by the Ring.

But you know more than the Ring Magazine, so please state the 10 heavyweights as of the end of 2017 who were better than Joseph Parker!

 

I actually agree the version of Parker (physically) was far better vs AJ than Joyce. I don’t know why he bulked up for the Joyce fight. Parker is a strange one as he has the tools. Fast hands, ok pop and good speed and a decent chin. The issue is he rarely comes in to fight night in shape. A lean Parker who has had a hard camp can go 12 rounds. Anything above that and he is blowing mid way.

FYI, I am not saying Parker is a world beater or anything near it. He gift wrapped the win for Whyte and I thought Del Boy had him too, which says a lot.

 

He got banned.

Good points nonetheless though. I felt that Parker would have beat Whyte if he had a full camp - only an 8 week camp. A fair referee would have also stopped the fight during round 12 - look at Foster vs Hernandez as an example for a fair referee.

 

He's shot.

35 is as far as you can take it when you have problems with cocaine, booze, PEDs, obesity and weight loss, the last of which absolutely becomes a problem for your muscles, heart and liver if you are constantly on the yo-yo.

Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot.

 

Joshua's win over Povetkin easily ranks higher than those wins. That version of povetkin was far more dangerous than Wilder ever was.