I just rewatched Leonard-Benitez

Corrales was drained and didn’t even try to win

 

So the end result is all that matters? I disagree.

 

Leonard had serious issues if you were faster than him. Luckily for him that only happened twice and he was old.

 

Slow your roll, my man.

In what parallel universe is Duran faster than Leonard?

He ran in rematch..." Why would Leonard stand-toe-toe with Duran and fight in the trenches, as he did foolishly in parts of the first fight, when he has the faster feet? It's Duran's job to cut off the ring and impose his kind of fight--two skills he was particularly adept at---not Leonard's to oblige him.

Leonard supposedly "ran" in the second fight, yet he still managed to land more clean, hard shots. LOL Duran quit because he knew he couldn't beat Leonard if Leonard used his feet and picked his spots, which he did masterfully in the second fight.

So Hearns got hurt and came back to win some rounds later on? Congratulations---you've just described a phenomenon that has happened countless times in boxing.

Leonard's body of work is questionable? He's 3-1 against the "Four Kings" when they were all still relevant. And I hate to break it t you...but Mayweather doesn't have his precious "0" if he had to run a gauntlet of Hearns, Leonard, and Duran twice.

 

Exactly.

 

You might have overlooked the first Duran fight because you were so impressed with Leonard being a clown, dancing, and making faces in the rematch. Duran was certainly quicker in all facets of that first fight.

And Leonard was a buffoon in the rematch and refused to engage at all. He could've actually fought without going toe to toe, but he took the extreme of being a coward. The only reason that fight was memorable was the "No Mas". It was garbage otherwise. Benitez, Hearns, and about 70 other fighters fought Duran and no one else pulled that ****.

 

This fight was pretty ass tbh. A second gear sparring session and the stoppage was bad. I wasn’t particularly impressed by either man, but I’m sure if you look hard enough you’ll find someone calling this fight the best technical display ever.

If SRL tried to box Mayweather he’d probably get shut out. Mayweather’s jab and speed/timing when countering is light years ahead of Leonard’s ‘boxing’ on display against Benitez. Leonard will have to brawl but Mayweather will have the IQ/defense to counter and power to keep Leonard very honest. And even then, Leonard didn’t brawl the naturally smaller, lighter punching Benitez, so I’m not sure where this template of SRL swarming over the smaller FMJ and stopping him with his massive power comes from. Ah I forgot, Leonard stopped Mayweather’s dad!

Mayweather was the better/greater fighter and the natural weight difference really is negligible here. When you look at ability/longevity/dominance/rounds won/ ring generalship/consistency/depth of resume etc there really is no comparison between these 2 it’s not close. SRL puts punches together with more speed and is a bigger puncher. But Mayweather is no slouch with his combos and from point A to B is clearly faster, plus even at higher weights has the power to get respect anyway.

Mayweather decision.

 

No one with a brain picks Floyd over SRL.

Floyd was very good from 140-147 but hardly special like he was at 135. He would meet the same fate as his father did against SRL.

Floyd isnt even on Buds level @ WW classes never mind SRL.

 

Why would Floyd face the same fate as his dad when he was far better? I can see pockets in that fight with Sr. where Floyd Jr. would've had much more success.

Floyd is far above Bud at WW, and is the equivalent of SRL P4P. All of the hate in the world won't change what he was. The real OGs know that Floyd was the real deal.

 

Benitez, Hearns....you mean two other HOFers Sugar Ray stopped?? Lol

Yeah, Leonard was such a coward in the second Duran fight that, despite employing a good deal of movement, he still landed the cleaner, harder shots.

And, no, Duran isn't quicker or faster than Leonard in any context. Period. But the 135lbs version of Duran is another guy who would've beaten your idol Floyd.

TBE YO!!!

 

Well Ray lost to a blown up Duran, so we know without a shadow of a doubt that he is inferior to Duran P4P.

Speculating about Floyd is meaningless, but he wouldn't have run around like a coked out circus clown against Duran; he would've approached that fight the same way he did every other one. Effective movement. Accurate punches. A sharp jab and elite defense. He may have lost, but he wouldn't have whored himself doing it. Ray foughg in a way he never had before or since: a cowardly buffoon.

 

Ppl that say floyd can hang with leonard are drunk lol.

 

Leonard was special.

He dominates Floyd.

Durans win over his the best win on record in the last 30/40 years

 

We know beyond a shadow of a doubt Duran's superior to Leoanrd P4P? How so? The last time I checked, the two are 1-1 (I don't count that last monstrosity). Could a case be made that Roberto is better P4P? Certainly. Is it beyond a shadow of a doubt? Not hardly.

So now Sugar Ray Leonard--a top 20 ATG and no worse than the second or third best WW of all-time--is a circus clown and a cowardly buffoon???

Damn---if you scratch the surface of a Floyd TBE super-fan, you get a whole lot of ugly.

 

Oh brother. Ray was 36-3 and should've been 35-5. We need to stop pretending that he was some mythological figure. P4P, he is hardly any better than PBF or Pernell.

Duran was better and beat him in the real fight. The rematch was bs and Ray made sure to rush that fight, knowing that Duran was in poor condition. He didn't even try for a proper getback, and still RAN from a post-obese Duran. Smh.