Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What will boxing look like in the future? That in itself is scary to think about lol.
     
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  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ngannou is in for a rude awakening. I like him a lot. But I think Fury didn't take him seriously. If Ngannou continues being very competitive, then I agree with others that this era is a complete joke. I mean it already is a bit of a joke but this would seal it.
     
  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly gave Fury 8 rounds of that fight. Don't get all of this talk about a robbery. I think N'Gannou is losing to all the big names though.
     
  4. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    It was never tried before to let an elite mma heavyweight face an elite hw boxer and we have our answer. MMA is no joke obviously and ngannou not a kermis fighter .
     
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  5. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    If AJ doesn’t get Ngannou out of there within 3 rounds then boxing takes another loss
     
  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua hasn't taken anyone out within 6 rounds since Molina in 2016, that's 11 fights ago. He'd try to do a Ruiz 2 against Ngannou. Problem is Ngannou isn't 6', 284 lbs morbidly obese, untrained, with below average power. He also isn't Whyte-victim Franklin or Wilder KO1-victim Helenius.

    A poll I ran came back with the results that 2023 Ngannou is better than 2022 Whyte and more importantly, 2014 Chisora. Post-Wlad Joshua wouldn't take out a fresh Chisora early (or at all), so why is he going to take out a much bigger, more durable and more powerful Ngannou early? He'd be fortunate not to get KO'd himself.
     
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  7. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just another guy we're going to end up waiting forever to see fight again. He's an instant cash cow. I bet everyone in the division wants to fight him.
     
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  8. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Nothing absolutely nothing
     
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  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why? Ngannou looks to have a proven chin. You can have those and not be a boxer you know.

    All he has to do is beat him uncontroversially without getting knocked down in the process and he one ups the fighting fatman.
     
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  10. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Question for boxing historians: which heavyweight in boxing history has anything resembling Ngannou's collection of attributes?

    Ngannou’s attributes (pre-Fury)

    6’4, 83 inch reach, 272 lbs ripped

    Phenomenal clinch fighter

    Switch hitter

    Big power in both hands, most dangerous puncher in MMA history, has held the world record on a punching machine since 2018

    14-15 years striking experience (MMA and boxing)

    Lineal UFC heavyweight champion

    Iron chin, never dropped or stopped in 21 MMA/kickboxing fights

    Pressure on experienced boxers not to get beaten by an MMA fighter in a mega event

    Easy to underestimate (17-3 MMA fighter, 21 months inactive, 0-0 as a boxer, outstruck by D. Lewis and Gane, gassed badly against Miocic 1, only one win past 10 minutes in 21 MMA/kickboxing fights)

    No boxing footage to study


    Even though the last two points no longer apply to the same degree, Ngannou now has 10 rounds of competitive experience against the lineal champ, increased confidence and a greater fear factor.
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Joshua vs. Ngannou by March at the latest.
     
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  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't see it. Hearn was talking about Charr/Kabayel as realistic options for December/January.
     
  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For me N'Gannou isn't going to change much, he just might have a few big fights with AJ and Wilder and maybe a Fury rematch. Could be good in the sense it'll keep those active and give a shot to proper up and comers.

    To be frank because there are a few big money names in the division, half the up and coming contenders are being locked out of the title picture and will be side stepped in a MI ute to make way for AJ or Wilder etc.
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah it's this all the way. Fury thought he could roll off his couch and drag Ngannou into deep waters after 3-4 rounds.
    That simply didn't happen, Ngannou showed decent stamina and was landing cleaner shots.
    I think Fury did get exposed to the casuals claiming he was the GOAT, which was laughable.
    I think the likes of AJ might fancy his chances against Ngannou, although confidence levels are still unresolved.
    Not sure Fury follows through with Usyk, the myth is based on being unbeaten, once that goes his resume can be seen for what it is, smoke and mirrors.
     
  15. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's wait until he beats a top 10 or even top 15 guy. Time isn't on his side either.