How Bad is Furys Resume?

I've said this before, you are under some magical spell that every hw today is like mike tyson and they are going to come in there and just bomb on Francis like he is clueless.

The reality is, If Francis does lose, it's going to be another boring decision where two guys hug the majority of the time. I dont know why you act like every boxing fight, a guy gets koed. Francis knows the boxing game, he knows its all about being patient and being conservative and clinching at the right time.

he fights Zhang it's going to look the same. Its going to be him stepping back looking to setup his check hook, right when Zhang goes to setup his big shots, Francis ties him up, and vice-a- versa.

I don't expect any of Francis fights to be exciting, he either koes dudes or he loses a boring decision, that has been all his losses in mma. And i told you, so moment you wanna tell me in the future is going to come from a boring typical boxing match where two guys do very little but jab clinch. I already said the same thing about Fury, i said he would win by playing paddy cake boxing, jab-jab clinch.

My consensus is that Francis is another top hw. he's going to play boxing, and all these hw beside him are going to fight boring right next to him.

 

Zhang outboxes Ngannou on the front or back foot why mention him. Numerous heavyweights would destroy Ngannou on the aggressive. Didn't I already tell you this. The smart thing is to box his face off, but multiple can fight him up close and beat him up. Example: Bakole. Slow and stiff as dried crap. Ridiculous that Fury struggled. Embarrassing

 

Nah. Inactive and only fought a couple of top guys, one was old and ready to be taken. Wilder was untested against the best ranked fighters and feasted on bums for 5 years.

 

Who you having better CV then ? Joshua who can’t win away from home

 

But he also didn't get embarrassed by a 0-0-0 Cameroonian wrestler either. So there is that.

 

Ngannou doesn't throw many punches, he relies on a tight guard and a good chin and single punch or 1-2 combos. To catch Francis, you need to catch him in between a singular punch, right on the button , the punch he didn't see. Those flash koes are hardest to land. I doubt you'll see anyone pummel him aggressively. That just isn't how you beat Ngannou. And many boxers are not good at feinting, especially Zhang, he's gone to ww3 with some journeymen boxers in the past. He turtles behind his guard and then plots forward. He isn't going to do anything off the back foot.

 

If the whole era is trash then Joshua is only slightly less trash for not disgracing the entire sport and himself against a complete boxing novice. Does that argument hold water with you?

 

Ngannou can absolutely get pummeled it's whether or not the ass beating leads to a KD or KO which it probably doesn't due to his chin. His low workrate will work against him against an aggressive with better defense.

Ngannou is not pushing Zhang back. That's laughable. He will at best just tie him up

 

At this point idc sure, but trash is trash

 

Joshua has fought better competition and more top ten contenders

 

It's still a better resume just on ranked opponents. I'm not interested in what someone "could do", it's what they have done. Half of Fury's six defences were against one man who himself hadn't fought anyone of note in his whole career.
Wilder was only sparking everyone because he was fighting bums and cruisers, a level or two below what Joshua was fighting over the same timeframe career wise. Yeah Joshua gets a lot of crap now but at least he was actually fighting the best available. Fury and Wilder are both smoke and mirrors and require each other to prop up the others resume, take that away and Fury's win against Vlad is the only good win between the two of them.

Just let that sink in for a minute...

The very best have at least 10 genuine quality scalps on their resume, whether that's unbeaten, former or current champs.
Wilder and Fury simply are nowhere near that calibre, size and punching power mean nothing until it's tested against the elite in an era, and not one or two cherry picks, it means clearing the division. Lewis's resume is a good benchmark in the modern era, that makes Fury and Wilder look like complete bums, it's not even remotely close.

 

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And name dropping Lewis....

 

I'm just spitting facts Arch. To me it's always been about actual opposition.
The Wilder and Fury fangirls know this and therefore have to default to what their man crush "could" do.
That's not how things work in the world, I only reference Lewis because he was the last unified champ who has a great resume, also the typical "He's a midget" defence used by these same clowns does not apply,. I would put a good chunk of money on Lennox being physically stronger than both (Wilder being a twiglet and Fury being an out of shape blob) and had the power to send both to the shadow realm fairly quickly.
This doesn't mean they couldn't get wins, but if I look at Lewis's resume I see quite a few fighters that would give Fury and Wilder absolute fit's.

 

I fully agree, Exo.

All we have to do is look at Usyk as a modern day 'small' heavyweight to see that he's a threat to everyone, and he's past prime, if the truth be known.

The obsession of this era, as the bigger man always wins is laughable. That's never, ever been the case in boxing history.

They have an advantage, yes. That's if the very basics of boxing skills and abilities are also present in every fight. That's once in a blue moon at the rate they fight these days. Ring rust Is the norm as a consequence.

And also, if we agree, then, that the likes of a peak Lewis, overall, of a fighters career, is a good kind of measurement compared to modern day fighters and their abilities. Then we have to also include the others fighters from previous eras abilities.

 

Never said any of them were best of all time or anything like that did I ? Said fury has best heavyweight resume of his generation which I stand by.

Lennox is not same generation in my book but each to their own