Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

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Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. Fury just sucks.
     
  2. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Games going on Full Member

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    Tyson Fury's UK numbers are pretty solid.

    He did OVER 500,000 PPV buys for the Chisora fight on BT Sport Box Office
    He did OVER 800,000 PPV buys for the Dillian Whye fight on BT Sport Box Office

    Wait until a solid source comes out with the US PPV numbers.

    Doesn't matter I heard he got paid $50 Million upfront.

    Was trending on social media for a while and more.
     
  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well deserved
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury lost.. and humiliated boxing. Made Wilder and Wlad look bad by losing.
     
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  5. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All in all Fury been bad for boxing
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk was ready and willing to fight on the 23rd. He never said he wasn't. Belly knew that but I told you all he would try and throw the fight to wriggle out of his day of reckoning but unfortunately for him he forgot to factor in that judges weren't going to let him lose unless he got KO'd or shutout.

    His reputation was already in complete tatters due to his shameless protracted ducking of Usyk but now he doesn't have a single ounce of credibility whatsoever and even going on a 100-0-0 (100 KOs) run against the best the division has to offer for the next 20 years couldn't salvage his reputation

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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tyson Fury numbers are garbage. And don't lie. He never did over 500k. vs Chisora, and never did over 800k. against Whyte.

    They never realize the numbers, and it's a well known fact that the both fight failed to sell any decent PPV. And yeah i vision the Whyte and Chisora fight.

    This numbers comes from Warren, who never show any official source, and BT never released their numbers.
    And he only comes with this bollocks, when Eddie Hearn and few other people revealed the Chisora and Whyte numbers and that they were trash.
    Chisora did less than 300k. and for Whyte was less than 500k.

    Only then Warren was saying, no no they were more than this or that, but he never revealed or proved a single number.

    Fury is a fraud, and this is another proof.

    Both of AJ fights in Saudi breaks records, and both sold more than 1 million PPV.
     
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  8. uppakut

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    This has to be one of the worst excuses ever for not fighting another champion.
    Usyks a foreigner, no one knows him, the champ should be from America or England? Pathetic. So shwarz, pianeta and seferi qualify for a fight but Usyk dont? Fury was also running around telling everyone that he was the lineal champ then so if he had lost hisb lineal title would have gone too.
    I'm not a Joshua fan but if he had done half of what fury has done he would have been vilified but fury fans just dismiss his contradictions and say boxing is all about making money.
    I thought boxing was about the best fighting the best to prove who the top dog is, that's alone generates the interest and money comes along with it.
     
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  9. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I said when this was announced this would do way lower numbers than they were expecting.

    Francis was not a huge ppv draw in the ufc and then you had the added problem of him not fighting for two years so his profile was much smaller than previously.
     
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  10. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Lmao what a load of bull****.

    I ****ing hate these circuses but theres no way that didnt get at least around the million mark worldwide.

    Also Dave Meltzer is a complete ****ing hack. Of course he shoehorns his obsession AEW into this as well.
     
  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Probably will do better but not that much? Usyk is a great fighter but not a draw.
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ray Sefo was a kickboxing legend with huge power and great chin. He got decimated by an unknown.
     
  13. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Kickboxing is awesome but its always been pretty small time really. Ngannou, Gane, maybe even Pavlovich could go over to Glory right now and beat probably anybody other than Rico, who hasnt lost in a decade in that sport. Remember Overeem, Ngannous most famous KO victim, is a former K1 GP winner too. Even guys who were not very good at all like Bob Sapp and Gary Goodridge managed to do some damage to big names in kickboxing.

    Also Ray was 18-9 in his own sport at the point that boxing match happened.


    Edit: How the **** did I forget that the most dominant HW kickboxer ever was Semmy Schilt, an ex-MMA guy.
     
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  14. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Those numbers are more than double what was actually reported for both of those fights. For clarity they asked fish eyes and he declined to answer.

    When asked, he said “it did very well”. When he was asked about the low figure of 300-350 for Chisora vs Fury he changed the subject.
     
  15. Mickc

    Mickc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Despite what he says Fury didn’t train hard and had no respect for his opponent and if you don’t train or show respect you don’t turn up and then you put a show on just like he did. Fury will be in the best shape of his life after all the crap he is getting his way from the Ngannou performance,also Fury recognises what’s at stake in this Undisputed fight and also knows that Usyk will be in top shape himself as well as coming for his belt and not just there for a payday. Is Fury shot,has Fury lost his hunger ? No doubt we will see once he gets in the ring with Usyk. I would not be surprised at all if Fury then goes on to rematch Ngannou .
     
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