Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Probably will do better but not that much? Usyk is a great fighter but not a draw.

 

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Ray Sefo was a kickboxing legend with huge power and great chin. He got decimated by an unknown.

 

Kickboxing is awesome but its always been pretty small time really. Ngannou, Gane, maybe even Pavlovich could go over to Glory right now and beat probably anybody other than Rico, who hasnt lost in a decade in that sport. Remember Overeem, Ngannous most famous KO victim, is a former K1 GP winner too. Even guys who were not very good at all like Bob Sapp and Gary Goodridge managed to do some damage to big names in kickboxing.

Also Ray was 18-9 in his own sport at the point that boxing match happened.


Edit: How the **** did I forget that the most dominant HW kickboxer ever was Semmy Schilt, an ex-MMA guy.

 

Those numbers are more than double what was actually reported for both of those fights. For clarity they asked fish eyes and he declined to answer.

When asked, he said “it did very well”. When he was asked about the low figure of 300-350 for Chisora vs Fury he changed the subject.

 

Despite what he says Fury didn’t train hard and had no respect for his opponent and if you don’t train or show respect you don’t turn up and then you put a show on just like he did. Fury will be in the best shape of his life after all the crap he is getting his way from the Ngannou performance,also Fury recognises what’s at stake in this Undisputed fight and also knows that Usyk will be in top shape himself as well as coming for his belt and not just there for a payday. Is Fury shot,has Fury lost his hunger ? No doubt we will see once he gets in the ring with Usyk. I would not be surprised at all if Fury then goes on to rematch Ngannou .

 

Sounds perfectly legit and logical. For example Amir Khan is the GOAT, but he had to lose intentionally to Prescot, Garcia and Peterson to lure Canelo, he lost to ginger to get a fight with Crawford, which he had to lose by KO because he didnt want to scare away Kell Brook.

 

Wilder got destroyed huh?? Haha, from what I remember it was a close fight were Fury got dropped hard and had raise from the dead to finish…

I doubt he wanted to get dropped by Ngannou either and he laughed at from the world, so no, Fury just didn’t prepare enough and if comes in the same shape against Usyk he will get “destroyed” for real.

 

Usyk doesn't have a history of dodging anyone. Fury's history is extensive and comprehensive.
Usyk's ambition was always to unify and retire, he's been consistent.
Fury changes his story every week and has stated that he's had all the belts and therefore doesn't need to unify.
That sounds like a cope and a get out to me.

 

I didn't think the casuals would care about Ngannou or even know who he was. No surprise.

 

Go and clean your ears out with some cotton buds.

It was ifl tv or boxing social media asked him about the UK PPV numbers I seem to recall.

A certain someone's last 2 fights haven't been on PPV. Will they buy into the Kabayel's and Charr's of this world on PPV? Nope.

 

True!

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And in the first 10 seconds of this clip (i guess the narrator is former Navy Seal Jocko Willink), its pointed out Cobb won 1980 the first real Kickboxing World Tournament.

I mention this because there are some Americans like Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, Joe Lewis and others who always claim they were "World Champions" in Kickboxing in the 1970s.
Thats strange when the first real World Champion Tournament was held 1980 and not them but Tex Cobb won it.


PS:
Fury got 22 seconds to recover from the KD:

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The undercard was HORRIBLE
The show was creepy as ****, unbearable.
The main fight was total crap, looked like staged and apart from clown fury rolling on the canvas isn't worth a single penny.

The only worthy thing in that crappy show was the wardley vs adeleye fight. That fight was better than decent, it was good, even very good.

The rest? whoever paid to watch that crap was scammed.

The girls dancing on the stage wearing so many clothes that you would say that they were in the north pole instead of in the desert were particularly ****ing creepy. Everything so that they are not killed right there for offending muhammad, creepy as ****.

 

There is no possibility that the fight only did 10k buys. This person has no credibility.

 

Goes to show that the real boxing fans dictate PPV sales, not the casuals. Good, I hope Saudi stops putting together these type of events and stick to real boxing.

 

A 9-1 Tony Thompson got dropped twice in the first round by 9-0 Chester Hughes but got up to stop him in the same round. Unfortunately there's no footage available.

All combat sportsmen aren't equal. Mormeck was a former unified cruiser champ but got crushed in 4 by Wlad, looked no better than Pianeta or Leapai. 4x cruiser titlist De Leon got smoked in 49 seconds by Sanders. Qawi quit against Foreman. Whereas other cruisers have had a lot of success at heavyweight.