Tyson Luke Fury vs. Francis Zavier Ngannou

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Aug 3, 2023.


Gypsy King or The Predator?

Poll closed Oct 28, 2023.
  1. Fury on points

    13.3%
  2. Fury by stoppage

    68.9%
  3. Draw

    1.7%
  4. Ngannou on points

    3.3%
  5. Ngannou by stoppage

    12.8%
  1. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sounds perfectly legit and logical. For example Amir Khan is the GOAT, but he had to lose intentionally to Prescot, Garcia and Peterson to lure Canelo, he lost to ginger to get a fight with Crawford, which he had to lose by KO because he didnt want to scare away Kell Brook.
     
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  2. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder got destroyed huh?? Haha, from what I remember it was a close fight were Fury got dropped hard and had raise from the dead to finish…

    I doubt he wanted to get dropped by Ngannou either and he laughed at from the world, so no, Fury just didn’t prepare enough and if comes in the same shape against Usyk he will get “destroyed” for real.
     
  3. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk doesn't have a history of dodging anyone. Fury's history is extensive and comprehensive.
    Usyk's ambition was always to unify and retire, he's been consistent.
    Fury changes his story every week and has stated that he's had all the belts and therefore doesn't need to unify.
    That sounds like a cope and a get out to me.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I didn't think the casuals would care about Ngannou or even know who he was. No surprise.
     
  5. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Games going on Full Member

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    Go and clean your ears out with some cotton buds.

    It was ifl tv or boxing social media asked him about the UK PPV numbers I seem to recall.

    A certain someone's last 2 fights haven't been on PPV. Will they buy into the Kabayel's and Charr's of this world on PPV? Nope.
     
  6. Drago

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    True!

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    And in the first 10 seconds of this clip (i guess the narrator is former Navy Seal Jocko Willink), its pointed out Cobb won 1980 the first real Kickboxing World Tournament.

    I mention this because there are some Americans like Bill "Superfoot" Wallace, Joe Lewis and others who always claim they were "World Champions" in Kickboxing in the 1970s.
    Thats strange when the first real World Champion Tournament was held 1980 and not them but Tex Cobb won it.


    PS:
    Fury got 22 seconds to recover from the KD:

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  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no possibility that the fight only did 10k buys. This person has no credibility.
     
  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Goes to show that the real boxing fans dictate PPV sales, not the casuals. Good, I hope Saudi stops putting together these type of events and stick to real boxing.
     
  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A 9-1 Tony Thompson got dropped twice in the first round by 9-0 Chester Hughes but got up to stop him in the same round. Unfortunately there's no footage available.

    All combat sportsmen aren't equal. Mormeck was a former unified cruiser champ but got crushed in 4 by Wlad, looked no better than Pianeta or Leapai. 4x cruiser titlist De Leon got smoked in 49 seconds by Sanders. Qawi quit against Foreman. Whereas other cruisers have had a lot of success at heavyweight.
     
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  10. alangjk

    alangjk Active Member Full Member

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    Big Dave has lost the plot.

    Um yeah, you know, the numbers are in, I can't say who gave me those numbers, but yeah, you know, ummm, yeah, those are the numbers.
     
  11. Drago

    Drago Member Full Member

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    I dont know what s the point in all of this?

    To say most K-1 fighters would look bad in Boxing? Sure, no doubt about it.

    But when you see the history of K-1, the greatest and most succesfull fighters were guys who can kick and punch, not just one of them. More or less Semmy Schilt and Ernesto Hoost were the two most succesfull. Yet Hoost lost to Sapp twice and Schilt lost to Hongman Choi (who wasnt even a kickboxer but Ssiereum-Wrester primary).

    Hoost lost to Sapp
    Sapp lost to Sefo
    Sefo lost to Hoost 3 times in 3 fights
    Schilt lost to Choi but defeated Sefo twice
    Sefo defeated Choi
    etc.

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  12. Drago

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    Style makes fights.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes it's utterly ridiculous

    It all should've been so easy

    Belly wins his semi-final by beating The Dosser

    Usyk wins his by beating AJ

    Belly vs Usyk in the final for all the marbles

    But it was complicated when Belly and Usyk had to fight their semi-finals again even though they won their first ones with ease in their opponent's backyards

    But win them again they did and finally we all get to see the final for all the marbles between the two best HWs in the world, both unbeaten, both colourful characters and charismatic.

    But Greedy Belly did everything in his power to prevent that from happening and it took all the money in Saudi, being mocked and ridiculed by the entire boxing world for a year, after Usyk had bent over backwards to make the fight happen, agreeing to a highly unfair, disrespectful and insulting purse split that no one on his position would ever have agreed to in a million years, and Usyk looking 'vulnerable' in his previous fight to entice Belly out of the coop
     
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  14. uppakut

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    "Idiot fury fans don't see it that way though, they make all the excuses for his behaviour, I remember when pac man was still active and you had his fans being called pac tards and Floyds fans being called *****s, I'm not sure what Canelo fanatics were called but my point is these fan's were atleast following fighters that mixed it with the best in there weight class and had legitimate claims to greatness. Fury's fans just accept anything he does, it's ridiculous
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, I used to be a huge fan of his but the way he has conducted himself throughout this whole Usyk saga turned me off him big time. He's lost millions of fans
     
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