Tyson Fury - His Own Worst Enemy (Video)

Great video as always @Rumsfeld ! Very fair but still critical analysis on Fury. It’s so frustrating how much Fury has been tainting his career given how talented of a fighter he really is when he’s focused. It seems like his comeback story has gotten into his head to the point that he’s becoming complacent and his hunger is dwindling. Fury is hurting his own reputation because of his antics, choice of opponents, acting like a diva, and not showing up in the best form in some fights. If he wants to earn back respect from the boxing community he needs to reevaluate himself and start getting more serious, especially if he wants to ensure that he performs well against Usyk.

 

What is the title of your background music?

 

"The only man who will beat me is myself" - Tyson Fury

Seems true

I don't think he's tainted his career at all. Nobody is perfect. Fury will beat Usyk and that's all he needs to do to cement his dominant era.

He'll be zoned in now probably excited at the test of Usyk which is all Fury needs, motivation. a motivated Fury is dangerous.

If Francis had money men behind him to get a boxing fight once every month to build his experience I have no doubts that man could fast track his way to the top of boxing. How he handles punches from punchers will dictate how his career in boxing goes.

 

Fury showed his trademark resilience in getting through the Ngannou fight and finding a way to win. Imagine if a complacent AJ had gone down on a counter left hook to the temple in the 3rd. We don't even have to speculate, we've seen what happens. There's also the possibility that the win will age well. People forget that Whyte walked down and beat up Parker. I can see Ngannou having plenty of success.

Fury's been known for off-nights throughout his career, which is a major reason why he's had more wars than any active heavyweight save Chisora. Hopefully this will be the kick up the backside he needs to get into the best possible mental and physical condition for Usyk.

 

Fury was smart enough to realize after the knockdown in the 3rd and the failed clinching that followed that he was in deep and he had to play the safest game possible to nick a decision and was not prepared to be cornered into such a conservative fight. Francis was no joke. He landed some good right hands which didn't make Francis blink I bet that man has a better chin than Whyte/Chisora & Wilder.

Fury didn't want to be complacent but when you have such an unknown there is that risk. It's like Usyk Dubious, I said Usyk's team were stupid for taking that fight and regardless of whether we want to debate if it was low or not that belly shot crippled him and any big shot could have crippled him but like the Francis situation, powers that be were on hand to ensure we get Fury Usyk.

The only question about Fury Usyk is what version of both show up and how well can they execute what will be a clearcut gameplan.

 

"I bet that man has a better chin than Whyte/Chisora & Wilder."

There's no question. It was extremely likely given some triangle theories I'd done before the fight:

26-0 Maldonado (MMA record 28-17) had been KO’d in 35 seconds by Miocic in MMA but he went on to go the 10 round distance with Rivas and Takam in boxing. By contrast, Miocic wasn’t able to seriously hurt, drop or stop Ngannou over two fights and 36 minutes in 4oz gloves, despite landing 82 strikes (UFC stats)

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Now Rummy, you shouldn't be saying this is Fury's fault when you know good and well the real reason why he had such a struggle last Saturday. You're on a very good 9-1 streak this year, but that doesn't mean Rummy's Curse isn't around. It's just manifesting in other ways. That's also why the WBA Regular title came back at Heavyweight. Yeah, I'm putting that evil on you too

Jokes aside, great analysis as always Rummy You said something I hadn't thought about, and that is even if it was from poor preparation, who's to say his body will cooperate when he does prepare better? He ain't exactly getting any younger, couple that with the abuse he's put his body through and a turn around performance akin to Wilder 2 is looking very unlikely. Especially when you consider said performance will likely have to come against a brilliant tactician in Usyk.

Still, I'm hoping like hell this came from poor preparation and not Father Time taking his next W. I back Usyk to win all the way, but that doesn't mean I want it to be a walk over. The folks who have waited nearly 25 years for a new undisputed champion deserve to see the next one crowned after a great fight between two undefeated guys as the best selves they can currently be

 

Nice video but I think people need to change their perception when it comes to combat sports, every now and then anomalous situations like this take place.

It's not like Ngannou is a volley ball player, he's an elite level stripped UFC heavyweight champion who's built like a brick **** house known for his striking ability. 270 pounds of sheer muscle.

Fury had no core strength, plain and simple. That's the story of the fight.

Fury couldn't put a dent in him, to be honest Fury couldn't do anything with Ngannou, his punches bounced off him and was over powered in the clinch. Every punch Ngannou landed was a problem.

 

I watched the fight again last night and had it 95-94 Fury but it was close and I think it hinges on how you score 2, 4, and 10 as those were the closest rounds of the fight. Fury looked very ineffective in there and Ngannou turned in a surprisingly solid effort.

The scary part is I think he was trying in there and coming up short, but I do think maybe he had in his mindset that this was an exhibition and didnt come in with killer instinct

For me I think Fury has just gotten too fat and reliant on bodying these guys and not winning on skill. Skill beat Klitschko and skill deserved to beat Wilder the first time though it was a draw. I feel Fury has bought too much into his power and clinching and paid dearly. He tried to clinch and maul but couldnt, Ngannou was too big and strong for that. Ngannou was very disciplined defensively in a way that Wilder was not and he had a punch variety that Wilder did not bring.

I think Fury needs to drop some pounds and get back to being light on his feet and jabbing and countering for more than a few minutes at a time.

In my opinion Uysk looked worse in the Joshua rematch compared to the first fight and struggled more with Dubois than I expected. Fury did worse the third time vs Wilder and nearly lost to Ngannou and maybe both champions are nearer to their shelf life than we would like to admit. I think Zhang beats the Fury we saw on Saturday

 

I'd advise Fury to spend 4 weeks of his Usyk camp wrestling with Francis. Fury to know how it feels to get grabbed and try to escape a stronger man is valuable knowledge. He defeated the great Grabamir Clinchko at his own game then Francis beat Fury at it.

Might as well extend his biggest physical tactic and advantage against Usyk to the nth degree. Squeeze Usyk like Francis squeezed Fury.

The great squeezening is coming.

 

I saw the last breathe of prime in Usyk from the first 4 rounds of the AJ fight in 2021, magnificent then it was gone for the rematch and after.

I saw the last breathe of prime from Fury throughout his 2nd Wilder bout in 2020, magnificent then it was gone

No secret both Fury & Usyk have wear which cannot be reversed. I think their styles clash magnificently also if you accept that roughhousing and clinching is a big part of boxing, Usyk will use his feet to avoid this to a good degree.

 

I cant say I disagree with either, both are still formidable but I think the gap in class between the top heavyweights and the contenders is closing.

 

Good video, Rummy. I certainly was wrong about how this fight would play out -- I was planning to skip it as I viewed this fight more like an exhibition. Not a real fight. I was wrong. I think you're right Fury looked lost in there and didn't look to have a "game plan." And I agree: I saw Fury trying to make an early statement and it utterly failed. And, as you said, it was a nice counter from Ngannou that sent Fury to the floor -- not some wild haymaker.

"Was it a matter of Tyson Fury being that bad, or was it a matter or Francis Ngannou being better than many expected?" I'm personally coming around to think the latter: Ngannou is really good. I would guess Fury didn't train quite as seriously as usual, but I don't think that was the main factor. As you said, Fury was really getting out-maneuvered. Fury has always relied on wrestling, leaning on, and physically pushing around his opponent to win fights. Not simply boxing. So when it came to grappling in the clinch, Fury ended up being the wrestling amateur and physically weaker, so Ngannou out-wrestled Fury and punished him for it. Then on top of that, Ngannou has crazy power and a freakish chin. Fury clearly elbowed Ngannou, and a flush elbow to the skull from a ~280 lb professional fighter apparently didn't even make Ngannou flinch.

And it probably should be noted Ngannou spent years training in boxing before starting MMA -- although I don't know how rigorous that training was.

My overall verdict:
1. Fury couldn't clinch or get inside without risking getting punished hard
2. Fury was afraid of Ngannou's power
3. Fury lacked the power to hurt Ngannou or score a KO
Fury had too many options taken away and hence had no game plan except to do the bare minimum to win a round, run away, and pray for a beneficial decision.

I tend to think Ngannou would do well against boxers who rely on physical power/athleticism (AJ, Wilder) but poorly against boxers who rely on more pure boxing (Usyk). I also tend to think Ngannou's success against Fury doesn't mean much for Usyk's potential success as the styles are completely different.

 

I just hope we get to see how good Francis really is. Needs to be matched up correctly though and not given knockover jobs. He should aim to fight early next year. If he's motivated by money then I expect his new boxing career will stall out. The money is running dry everywhere but Saudi.