IF Tyson Fury retired tomorrow...

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  1. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    .. where would rank him, all time great?
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  3. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If we are talking resume borderline top 20… And it’s only because I rate Wilder which I know is not very common.
     
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  4. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    Scrapped by a 40 yr old Klitschko by fighting scarred then refusing the rematch and getting caught using PED's.

    Got dropped 4 times in a trilogy against a guy who can't box and never beat anyone.

    ^ His 2 best names on his resume, which are head and shoulders above all the other names on his resume... Thats not to mention all the cherrypicking , ducking and getting embarrassed by a 0-0-0 37 year old.

    How does this resume come anywhere near the top 40?
     
  5. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He doesn’t make the top 50 for me, genuinely!

    He’s all hype, full of talk and self promotion with very very very little to back up his words.

    Let’s be honest and I’m not a hater, but let’s be truthful, he fought a very stale, disinterested and aging Wladimir Klitschko and won a fight where neither combatant deserved the title of World Champion. It was without doubt the most lacklustre, low quality Title fight I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching for 50 years.

    He never defended those titles!
    Then fights Wilder in a trilogy which was engrossing, entertaining and had quality but is tainted by Wilders fake status in the game. Wilder hadn’t and still hasn’t fought anyone with real quality, he’s never taken on a lion who has hunger, ambition with skill and power. Wilders managers have fed him a succession of White Collar Boxers, Tomato Cans and bum of the month level boxers from outside the top 100, 200 even 300 ranked fighters. In the vast majority his opponents have been happy to lay down at the first opportunity and take their payday, it somewhat invalidates the KO ratio that Wilder owns.

    Following that Fury hasn’t fought anyone of note, probably the best being Whyte and he’s avoided Usyk, Joshua, Dubois, Joyce, Hergovic and now Zhang. Choosing instead to fight Ngannou in a circus atmosphere, a fight most think he lost.

    so when I read or hear about Fury and his place amongst the All Time Greats of Ali, Louis, Lewis, Tyson, Marciano, Holyfield, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Dempsey, W Klitschko, Patterson, Liston, Walcott etc. . . .
    I can only laugh at the notion of him rating amongst them
     
  6. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    most atg were from the days were boxers had 100s of fights and defended the title like 15+ times.

    A guy like Willie Pep and Sam Langford blow Fury out of the water.
     
  7. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    He'd possibly scrape top 20 \ top 25 for me. A guy who has obvious talent but never pushed himself consistently against the top competition of his era to rank higher.
     
  8. Matt0029

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    How many times as he actually defended the title? 2 of those defences are against guys his already beaten
    Wilder and chisora
     
  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He has as many defences of belts as Foreman, more than Liston.

    10 defences of the lineal title, 2nd longest reigning lineal champion.
     
  10. I Dont Play With Dolls

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    WOW, your totally delusional. Counting imaginary defences to keep feeding your delusions of Fury supremacy.

    Just when you think Fury fans can't get any lower, they pathetically squeeze under the bar.

    There is no lineal title. It's a made up thing.

    Tyson has only REAL 3 title defences Wilder, Whyte and Chisora.

    Foreman has 5 REAL title defences, more than Fury.

    Keep your delusions to yourself
     
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  11. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Counting Seferi, Pianti and Shwarz as title defences is a bit much. I won't begrudge his need for a comeback, but they don't count imo.
     
  12. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **** up. The lineal title is more important than bull**** org politics.

    It's existed for longer than the orgs have.
     
  13. Redbeard7

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    "I'm the man who beat the man who beat the man, the true linear champion of the world. That in itself is a bigger title than any of those other titles." - Lennox Lewis

    Foreman made three successful defences: Roman, Norton, Schulz.
     
  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They all count statistically.
     
  15. Faz42

    Faz42 Member Full Member

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    Come on let's be honest some of these comments are bitter bull****.

    He's arguably top 10 right now.

    Same people moaning he's overrated and slating who he has beat will in the same breath claim mike tyson should be above him when the truth is the blokes the most overrated fighter of all time including wilder.
     
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