Isn't Ricky Hatton greater than Carl Froch ?

I wouldn't really call the Tszyu fight a beautiful performance in all honesty, yes it was a good performance against a Tszyu coming towards the end of his career similar to McGuigan vs Pedroza. But Hatton was allowed alot of leeway from the referee and to this day fans aren't happy with the referee's performance during that fight.

As for Froch vs Ward i thought Froch won 3 rounds vs Ward when he made a late rally, how many rounds did Hatton win vs Mayweather ? i would say roughly the same yet Hatton got knocked out, and let's be honest Mayweather didn't knock many people out at Welterweight.

I would say Froch's performance against a prime undefeated Lucian Bute is a better win/performance than vs a shopworn Castillo who's best weightclass was Lightweight.

I know Hatton skyrocketed up the rankings after the Tszyu win but for me he was never a top 5 P4P fighter.

If you want to compare their best wins.....

Froch best wins

Jermain Taylor
Mikkel Kessler
Lucian Bute
George Groves x2
Andre Dirrell
Glen Johnson = Still decent but past his prime
Jean Pascal
Robin Reid = Past his prime significantly

Hatton's best wins

Paulie Malignaggi
Juan Lazcano
Jose Luis Castillo = past his prime
Luis Collazo = Controversial decision
Kostya Tszyu = Good win but a bit past his prime
Ray Oliveria
Vince Phillips = Completely shot
Carlos Maussa

Looking at both of their resumes Hatton has the best single win over Tszyu but Froch has better wins overall. Hatton was certainly a bigger name and more popular than Froch, but regarding their best wins i think Froch edges it personally.

 

Neither is great. Although Hatton was the man for a time at his weight class and Froch never was, honk Froch had a better overall career based on the depth of his resume.

 

Tszyu was the best win between the two, with the caveat that the refereeing was highly partial to Hatton.

But aside from that win, Hatton's resume doesn't compare to Froch's. Froch's resume during his time was one of the best in boxing, and remains one of the best ever at 168.

 

No, although Hatton hit greater heights, albeit briefly, and was the bigger star, he didn't fight George Groves in front of 80,000 at Wembley.

 

It’s funny, you’d think Froch would bring that up more…

 

Hatton was probably the better talent and was more highly rated at one point and was certainly a bigger name than Froch, but Froch’s body of work between 2008 and 2013 is more impressive than Hatton’s peak so I’d rate Froch a bit higher overall although that doesn’t mean I think he was better.

 

Saying Hatton/Kostya was beautiful is insane. That was one of the ugliest, mauling fights that I've ever seen. It was really crazy some of the stuff Ricky got away with, notably the most laser pointed low blow I've ever seen in a boxing match ever. That was more pinpoint than anything Golota threw at Bowe. But I digress, he won.............ugly but a win is a win.

Carl Froch was actually respected by a number of Americans, he has a win over someone who destroyed Roy Jones, he beat and destroyed the person who dethroned Bernard Hopkins, he (really) beat the person that was for a number of years considered the best SMW and was favored to win the super six tournament twice in Kessler (first fight was a robbery), he beat the MW darkhorse that moved up, he beat and basically destroyed the career of the SMW darkhorse that wasn't in the super six....................I could keep going about Froch. Froch had one of the best SMW runs in history, I'd say top 5. Ricky did not have one of the best JWW runs in history.

 

The International Boxing Hall of Fame also agrees that Froch was greater though..............and he did it with only what..........35 fights?

 

I think only like 8-10 modern fighters TBH.

I'm very critical of the IBHOF myself, there are a number of Americans I think should be in who aren't and who are in and shouldn't be. But Froch being one of a very select few from that side does speak some volume about how he was perceived

 

Some of the below has already been covered by others:

Hatton has the best single win in Tszyu.

Froch's 2nd to 8th best wins are better than Hatton's.

Hatton was THE champ in 1 weight division and a titlest in another. Froch was only a titlest in 1 division.

From what I recall, the highest either ever ranked in the Ring's P4P rankings, was bottom half of the top 10.

There's not much in it either way, but I suspect at their respective peaks, Hatton was marginally better, p4p.

Who you rank higher p4p, depends entirely on your criteria.

 

Not often i disagree with you Greg but i think Froch had a far better career of the two