I still can't get over the Loma Haney robbery and I never will

First, this is an articulate, well argued post. No argument there.

If you only take umbrage with those who claim the fight was a ""robbery," however, then you have no quarrel with me. Of course, much depends on how one defines a robbery.

If we are to use your point of reference--the Chavez-Whittaker fight--then the Haney-Loma decision does not qualify as a "robbery." Others have a more liberal definition. To them, a "robbery" can be any fight in which the more deserving fighter is not rewarded with a decision.

Me? I am more in league with the more egregious examples, such as the Chavez-Whittaker fight you mentioned. Consequently, I do not refer to Haney-Loma as a robbery per say. But even if a fight does not qualify under that narrow, more circumspect definition of "robbery," it does not mean that a decision was in fact the correct one.

Ring Magazine surveyed a number of boxing insiders after the bout. See the link below:
https://www.ringtv.com/653493-fair-...-in-on-devin-haney-vasiliy-lomachenko-result/

Did any of the aforementioned label the bout a robbery? No. So what was the opinion of those esteemed observers?

13-4-1 in favor of Lomachenko.

That's my point. The fight does not fit my definition of a "robbery," but it doesn't mean the right man won.

Some solid back and forth here, my man!

 

Well atleast you admit your biases I guess.

I just think it's a strange mentality. I mean Eastern Europe covers a huge area. American fighters can be from completely different states also.

Often you have Eastern European fighters who are rivals with each other, same as American fighters can be.

I think it's a lazy generalisation and the reality is that most people just like boxing as that actual names themself come and go.

 

Perhaps you misunderstood--I'm not on Team "Eastern Europe," so I have no bias against American fighters.

And, though I'm an American, I'm not on Team "Floyd TBE."

But I'm also not willfully or naively blind about the biases of different fan bases.

 

I reckon if there was an immediate rematch Loma would've gone for the KO by stepping on the gas earlier. Haney is a lot more fragile than Canelo and Ward so there is a good chance that Loma could've gotten him out of there.

 

I may not subscribe to the idea that Lomachenko was necessarily the rightful winner here, as I think it was ultimately too closely contested to pick an outright winner with any confidence, but I really appreciate the respectful disagreement. All too often these sort of discussions devolve into mindless personal attacks.

 

Cheers, my man.

 

If the fight was that close surely it deserves a rematch. Loma wants it, it Haney that wont discuss it To me that shows which fighter truly believe they won that fight!!! Its not Haney hes avoiding it like the plague

 

Right ok. You do you.

 

it’s a brutal one. it essentially determines his legacy.

eventually, his actual performance will fade from memory and only the scorecards will remain, as what always happens with these kinds of fights. so we will remember Loma as an underachiever and a slight disappointment, rather than a true legendary fighter.

fine margins…

 

You do you

I intend to, not that I need your permission or approval.

 

You’re still crying? Lmfao

 

Close fights aren't robberies when are people going to realize this? Pea-jcc was a robbery no case could be made for jcc wining, pea won going away. Learn the difference between the two and you'll sleep better at night. Calling close fights where your fighter didn't get the nod is an injustice to real robberies period.

 

You clowns are the ones that cry when people knowledgeable fans refuse to accept your cowardly heroes as winners when they plainly lost

 

Whether its a close fight or a shut out the legitimate winner should get the win. Loma didn't & really it wasn't that close Haney got BEAT!!!!!!