Wilder vs Parker, Joshua vs Wallin, Bivol vs Arthur planned for Dec 23rd

Which is why the attempts to make the fight when undisputed was on the line were entirely one sided, right?

Joshua might not want it now, but he certainly did at one point... Wilder only ever wanted to use the idea of that fight to raise his profile without having to actually get in there.

 

"He's considered an ATG now, but when he was a draw he was still a fighter who was losing to others on occasion."

He was in the ATG discussion around the time he ko'd Hatton and stopped Cotto. Prior to that you'd have to say his only defeat whilst being a draw pre-ATG discussion was against Morales. I know he lost earlier in his career but he wasn't a draw then.

"I've been on the website over a decade. I get a notification I reply to a post. I see a big fight I show interest, I see a lesser fight I lament it. Not that much dedication."

I'm not trying to insult you but I think 74,000 posts in a bit over 10 years shows tremendous dedication.

"Of course fights marinating is a problem. Especially when the majority of the time they never come off. I've already told you my solution, I just don't buy below par ppv cards, especially when they don't even feature a legitmate champion facing a worthy contender. Everything else is me answering your questions."

I see the marinating in boxing as a reality that can't be changed. Many thanks for answering my question as to why you think the proposed card isn't PPV worthy.

 

While I truly believe Parker has the attributes to dominate Wilder and win,

J-Park has let me down before

and I scarcely dare hope he will actually get the job done this time

 

I really really hope these fights happen man but im not holding my breath though. even joshua wallin is a good fight cause wallin does get up for the big fights and usually performs well

 

Its the Saudi money preassure.

Hrgovic is #1, Wallin is #2 - they fight only if Usyk ditches the belts, if Usyk doesnt ditch the belt meaning there is no rematch - it is still Hrgovic-Usyk.

If rematch of Fury-Usyk happens, then the belt becomes vacant (which isnt much of a rematch) and Hrgovic will be mandated to fight #2.

Hearn being a sneaky ***** wants to push Joshua that way. Not only that - he wants to set up Joshua with easier opponent (Wallin) and completly remove Hrgovic from the equation (giving him big money to fight like they say Bakole).

Hrgovic doesnt need to fight - but if undisputed is in febuary, he wont get his shot till next december, maybe. But he knows he aint popular, so he will have to risk it vs Bakole type of fighter or maybe Makmudov, upside for fighting this kind of opponents is Saudi money.

Funny and interesting is why didnt Hearn just set up AJ with him - that is called real strategic thought, damn Hearn is a mastermind.

 

It is risk calculating, Hrgovic is way more dangerous opponent than Bakole for AJ, but Bakole is a beast aswell, not tehnical but powerhouse. He is stronger than Hrgovic, he has punchers chance and Hrgovic is rusty after fighting 2 southpaws over 2 years. Again Hearns doing keeping him inactive. Hearn is betting on a chance Bakole will end Hrgovic career.

It is best way scenario for Hearn - AJ wins Wallin if it gets to decision, and there is a chance he wont face Hrgovic because that fight aswell wont be on this kind of mega-card, and there is a big money problem with Hrgovic, but a little less of a money problem with UK popular Bakole.

EDIT: also, if Hrgovic gets beaten by Bakole, his career is over, but if he wins, his stock will launch him high, I am talking number 3 in the world - and Hearn will now have decent opponent for AJ + he will get Hrgovic under his wing again (now he is a free agent) Win Win for Hearn.

 

All solid fights.

Lets see it.

 

I was under the impression that the IBF will strip the winner of Usyk vs Belly immediately after the fight ala like the WBO did with Jermello after he fought Clenelo
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If IBF Pres. Daryl Peoples does that, who cares? The winner of Fury-Usyk will be considered the unified/undisputed champ regardless and Hrgovic (or whoever) would have to fight that winner to earn legitimacy.

 

As much as I agree with the sentiment that that's not normally how this is done in boxing now...

There's a part of me that doesn't want to see them sitting around waiting - that's not how the sport gets better, not how we get the fights we want to see and not how these fighters get tested and improved.

As much as you're completely right that Eddie's a conniving little snake, I have absolutely no problem with guys being made to run the gauntlet to prove they really deserve to still be there when the title fights are available... If it's that or letting hypejobs with lousy resumes keep their protected ranking positions whilst barely fighting at all (speaking of no dossers in particular )...

I'm absolutely A-OK with seeing some good fights get made - IMHO that's how it should be.

 

Wilder stepping it up now that the end is near

 

Problem is Hearn rightfully sees Bakole and Hrgovic as far tougher fights than Wallin and given Furys performance vs Wallin, as long as AJ wins he probably can’t do much worse than Fury did so is easy to spin to the public.

I think a rematch clause for undisputed is ridiculous, given Fury had a non title fight vs a MMA fighter. And given the fact they fight 1/2 times per year. Needlessly holds up the division.

Problem for Hrgovic is if he waits it out it is likely the winner of Usyk Fury vacates so he doesn’t get to fight either even then.