Why did Sonny Liston say that Cleveland Williams treated him rudely

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Seems like Cleveland Williams was a perfect gentleman. Can't imagine him being rude
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Maybe Sonny considers getting whacked upside the head with a few hard left hooks as rudeness ?
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    He didn’t? They were excellent friends and Liston even visited him in the hospital.
     
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  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sonny sent him a Christmas card every year and not only did Cleveland never send Liston one, he never even thanked him.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Perfect gentleman? He attacked his girlfriend with a meat cleaver.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    I hear Cleveland also said Sonny was shorter than he looks but isn’t actually any shorter then listed and that he and Sonny had Deli Sandwiches together once. We only know what Williams got (A BLT with no crust) but what Liston had? It still persist as a mystery some say it was a Caesar with almonds.
     
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  7. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I read that Cleveland said that Sonny Liston smells.. No wonder Sonny was cross with him :eek:
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Source? Or have you been on the sauce?

    Seriously kidding buddy but where did your hear/read this?

    If Liston said it, good chance it was a tongue in cheek reference.
     
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  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of fighters don't bother with deodorant in the ring. If the armpit smell throws off the opponent a bit, good. Same might go for brushing their teeth that morning, if we're being gross.
     
  10. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Can't judge by today's standards.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I remember reading some post fight quote from Liston saying that Cleveland Williams treated me rudely
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Cleveland was rude to him, Ali was downright inhospitable the way he bullied Liston twice.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I know Marvin Johnson didn't shower during at least one camp and he may have done it routinely.