Stylistic differences between N'Gannou and Usyk

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Looking at the stylistic differences between Usyk and N'Gannou, by the way I'm of the opinion that Fury clearly outpointed N'Gannou and under estimated him but this is a look at their respective attributes and how they will effect Tyson Fury

    Punching power: N'Gannou 8/10, Usyk 5.5/10

    Definitely a noticeable edge to N'Gannou here. He's not far off 20 stone, doesn't have the snap or hit as hard as the likes of Zhang imo but does have thudding power. Without this N'Gannou would not have been able to compete at all with Fury. Usyk is at a slight disadvantage in the power department against Fury.

    Speed: N'Gannou 6.5/10, Usyk 8.5

    Noticeable edge for Usyk here, he's not the fastest but he's not far off and being lighter definitely helps. He's very hard to pin down and hit with a big shot never mind multiple big shots. N'Gannou is still fast enough to allow him to set good traps with his size.

    Footwork/Mobility N'Gannou 3, Usyk 9

    This is the biggest gulf between these two and this if N'Gannou had Usyk's pedigree and ability to Usyk's level would have given him a KO win vs Fury. With his strength and build it leaves N'Gannou being quite stiff.

    Strength/Clinch/Size N'Gannou 9, Usyk 4.5

    This was the ultimate factor what allowed N'Gannou to have moments vs. Fury. His strength coupled with his size and grappling ability took away the most developed part of Fury's game. N'Gannou couldn't his it to wear out boxers like Usyk but he also prevented Fury doing it to him. MMA back huge advantage here.

    Punch resistance/Chin N'Gannou 8.5, Usyk 6.

    Usyk is 5x harder to hit than N'Gannou but when hit N'Gannou is taking it better.

    Stamina N'Gannou 5, Usyk 8.5

    Usyk has better cardio than N'Gannou and this is one area where Fury may outrank them both where as in most cases I'd place him in the middle of the two. N'Gannou gassed slightly against Fury over 10 although his other attributes saved him from being pushed to work a pace outside his comfort zone, Usyk may have to work outside his comfort zone if Fury is allowed to implementhis rough house tactics.


    Bottom line is Fury has relied a long time on physically bullying opponents. Especially when he's been lazy in camp. He got a shock vs N'Gannou because that luxury was all taken away from him (as it would be vs. Zhang) but against Usyk he's going to have that.

    Usyk has to use speed and stamina along with counters to disrupt Fury from doing this.

    For anyone asking where I rate Fury's physical attributes they're all pretty much in-between these 2 fighters. I still think Fury vs. Usyk is a very interesting fight but I'm now leaning to an Usyk win.
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Fury came in well underdone against Ngannou who is now being severely overrated.
    Usyk deserves full credit if he does indeed beat Fury.
     
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  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stop with the excuses. Fury looked like he always does. He couldn't put a dent in francis and his usual rough guy tactics weren't working in the clinch. Francis wasn't biting on his feints as he wasnt scared of tysons power at all. Usyk would get ran over even quicker, guy punches like malignaggi at HW.
     
  4. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Good summary and i overall agree .

    I think ngannou,s secret is his extraordinary power in his entire body . From feet to head he is probably the physically most powerful athlete ever seen in a boxing ring and there will be something in it he is the official world record holder in punching force . The punch that dropped fury looked slow but i think it had a massive momemtum / force generated from his entire body .

    Further his body seems to give him an enormous resistance in eating shots , it might be close to impossible to drop him .

    This carried him thru the fight where he technically of course is inferior to any top 10 boxer , let alone to usyk .

    I have no idea how a fight between him and usyk might look like . It might be usyk dramatically outboxes him giving francis no chance to hit usyk at all and ends with a massive points decision towards usyk and against a frustrated and tired ngannou .

    No ko , usyk has never the power to drop ngannou .

    But It might also ends ngannou is able to corner usyk and break his his ribs from a single body hook .

    Nobody can say and i,m sure usyk is easily smart enough to not even try to infight or clinch and wrestle ngannou .
     
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  5. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @iceferg According to your rankings, Fury will obliterate Usyk easily. Speed isn't everything in heavyweight boxing.
     
  6. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zhang would have put Fury away that night.
     
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  7. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyks punch resistance is definitely higher than 6, same with Stamina, can't think of a fitter guy p4p
     
  8. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There was one point where Fury smashed him with a right hand right on the side of the jaw and would probably have staggered or dropped any HW.
    Ngannou barely looked phased and went on attacking. Even in MMA where strength and size are more important than skill, Ngannou was regarded as way above normal.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk's punch resistance a 6 ? Hes fought some big punchers like Joshua, Gassiev, and his chin has always held up definitely better than a 6.

    Unless your factoring into punch resistance regarding Usyk's abdomen aswell ? Which does look a bit dodgy.

    But I don't see how Usyk's chin wouldn't atleast be an 8.
     
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  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Francis is better than AJ & Chisora
     
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    You can write your next post about the strategic differences in chess between an orangutan and magnus carlsen. It will collocate really well with this one.
     
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  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Imagine if it was makdomov that night
    Woah
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce walked thru everything until he didn't.
     
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  14. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    You can always discuss about the scala , but when ngannou,s punch resistance is 8.5 as a deadline , usyk,s is never more than 6 - and that would be very good !

    Especially in punch resistance and body strenght ngannou will be the benchmark of all current hw,s .
     
  15. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Need to see Ngannou again to assess his level. Hopefully not against Chisora btw.