Best and worst weight classes right now?

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  1. JesseT

    JesseT New Member Full Member

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    What do guys think are the weight divisions with the best and worst talents right now?

    135 in my opinion has the most talent and is the most competitive. 140 too is pretty stacked with Teo, Prograis, Haney now moving up, Matias etc.

    160 is looking pretty grim nowadays, cruiser too even that they have couple really good fighters in Opeteia and Briedis.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    115lbs has a great mix of ye olde geniuses and warriors (Estrada, Gonzalez, Ioka, Cuadras, Rodriguez) and exciting fresh faces (Nakatini, Martinez, Tanaka). The majority of fighters in those divisions are interesting. I hope to see it resolved, certainly, the old boys aren't going anywhere.

    Heavyweight is awful. Fury looks shot, Usyk is 37 next time he fights, Chang is 40, AJ is gunshy, Wilder hasn't won a meaningful fight in years.
     
  3. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cruiserweight empties itself out every few years - I'm used to it. Remember what the division was like when Mormeck and Haye had left and right before Lebedev and others got established?

    Middleweight is a sadder story. Golden Boy wrecked that division when they had Canelo set off for SMW and LHW. That division is in the worst shape I've ever seen it.
     
  4. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're being way too hard on HW. Fair points about Wilder & AJ and that leads me to the real problem: promoters haven't yet cashed-out a few high-profile fighters. There are definitely several very exciting HWs (Jalolov, Dychko, Makhmudov, Wardley, etc) who could step in at a moment's notice - but are simply being forced to wait their turn. With Fury no longer a prohibitive A-sider who can pause the division indefinitely - this will work itself out in 12 months.

    Oh and it's Zhang, not Chang. I'd best most of us would be very happy to see him in a title fight. He can crack.
     
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  5. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    135 isn't that good, it just has the promotional & American Boxing media hype machine behind it

    Tank, Huggy Haney, Shakira Twitterson never fought each other, & now Haney is at 140. We know Tank & Shakira won't fight, & Shakira just laid a big fat egg against Edwin in 1 of the biggest stinkers I remember seeing

    Loma is clearly past his best

    Frank Martin ducked Shakira (& now more will, which puncher would want to be in a stinker like the one against Edwin with him)

    So what's so great about 135 except constantly being told by shills like Rick Glaser & Boxing media about how Shakira is the "future of Boxing" & a "superstar", how you are watching a "defensive masterclass" as he runs around the ring for 12 rounds

    If guys at superfly had the same hype machine behind them, you would think Armstrong & SRR were reborn
     
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  6. TheShellofKell

    TheShellofKell Nakatani Future P4P #1 Full Member

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    140 is in a pretty sweet spot. Matias, Te'o, Prograis, Catterall, Haney, Hitchens, Gary Russell and the ever criminally underrated Sandor Martin. 160 and cruiser are terrible.
     
  7. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Light Heavyweight and Cruiserweight are pretty dull.

    I guess if the Light Heavyweights can make 168lbs they go fight there because that’s where the most talented Welter guys tend to max out. So that’s where the money is at.

    And then most of the Light Heavyweights and Cruiserweights don’t have the size or super talent to succeed at Heavyweight. The ones with the talent and size move up to Heavyweight. So it gets kinda stale.

    That’s too bad because theoretically those weights can produce great fights.
     
  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The best is probably 122
    The worst is definitely HW.
    The division to watch is JWW to WW
     
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  9. Unique Way

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    How MW is better than HW?
     
  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Golovkin (retirment notwithstanding) Zhanibek, Sergiy, Adames and Lara are respectively a far better top 5 than the top 5 at HW. Plus, I admit 6-10 at MW ain't that great yet.........but 6-10 at HW is even worse...................IMO
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Not hard enough.

    But they won't. And if they did, who knows what might happen? Jalolov's last opponent has now lost four in a row. Dychko has boxed two rounds in 16 months. Makhmudov has moved on to the top ten without beating anyone anywhere near. It's garbage.

    Yeah, he is one of the better fighters in the division so of course people would be happy to see him in a title fight. But if it's not before may he will be 41 before he fights for the title and 41-year-old fighters can fall out of bed at a moment's notice. It's awful that he's one of the most best guys in the division.
     
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  12. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HW isn't a bad division. The main problem is inactivity and not enough contender fights.
     
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  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    122 is best. I also like 168 (Canelo, Benavidez, Andrade, Plant, Morrell Jr, Jermall).

    140 has potential too.

    I think 147 is weak though (both Crawford and Spence are probably moving up with the latter almost definitely...and aside from Ennis? Thurman is basically retired and even when he wasn't how good was he? Prime undefeated Thurman got laid out by old, shot Pac). So at 147 you have Crawford (for now, but maybe not) and Ennis...then?? Thurman and Stanionis?? Neither Thurman nor Stanionis seem to care about winning..just want paydays and step aside money
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Sounds like a bad division to me.
     
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  15. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I think the bantamweight division is pretty mediocre. While we may know the names they are mostly a bunch of guys who lost to Inoue or would have lost to a younger Donaire. At the moment, there isn't a fighter in the division with any chance of going to the Hall of Fame and none of them are close to the the current top twenty pound for pound fighters.