Brilliant idea on how to deal with shakur stevenson type boxers in the sport

I don't respect defense first fighters. If there no offense first guys combat sports would be garbage. They can thank their lucky stars for the warriors.

 

it will take a full Boycott of all his fights not just PPV as nobody paid to watch his previous fights (all non PPV).

Honestly I don’t see how he gets a PPV match after this debacle outside of a sensational KO vs Navarate.
Then All will be forgotten / “Forgiven.”

 

Loma boxed
I don’t recall him full on track meeting & wrestling when running wasn’t an option.

he was dubbed the Matrix for a reason
The angles he shows while staying in the pocket to fight
Swim without getting wet does not = Track Star.

 

Here's what I find curious, luft.

When I noted that there are fans of Eastern Europe fighters on ESB who are not favorably disposed to American fighters, particularly black American fighters, you immediately and uncritically accepted the premise and even offered a measure of approval for admitting such biases. Not once did you ask me to produce examples of the aforementioned posters.

Yet, when I observed that there is a rather prominent segment of Team Floyd TBE who very clearly dislike Lomachenko in particular (and EE fighters in general), you immediately accused me of "lazy generalizations" and demanded that I produce examples of the such posters.

That does strike me as odd, my guy. It's almost as if your opposition to generalizing is rather selective.

 

Shakur gave us like 4 entertaining fights in a row where he exhibited everything (sharp punches, great defense, walking forward to the opponent) and because he's in a snoozer we're back to this? It was a boring fight yea, but some fights due to styles are simply gonna be misses. And Haney saying something is hilarious because he gets the same type critique usually. That's why Tank responded to him when he said something about Shakur.

Shakur is still very like the best at LW...........whether he's in a pedestrian affair or walking people down. And his peers know that, that's why no one is trying to get in the ring with him unless forced...........

It is what it is.............

 

Well it's essentially down to the fact that I think it's lazy. It requires very superficial thinking and an assumption that others share that same superficiality.

I mean look at the languag of your post there when you consider two different subsets of fans.

The idea that someone scored the fight for Haney purely because they're a Floyd fan is nonsense. The idea that the majority of people who scored the fight for Haney are Floyd fans is nonsense. I say nonsense because it can't be backed up. There are specific examples of people who like Floyd and dislike Loma. There are specific examples of people who like Loma but dislike Floyd.

Which is why I called you out on it. It's lazy generalisation.

The reason you're so entrenched in this line of thinking is because it's now you view the sport yourself. Which is fine. But just don't assume that the majority of people who scored the Loma fight to Haney did so out of bias, because you certainly don't assume that the majority of people who scored the Ortiz fight to Loma did so out of bias.

It's lazy.

 

Evidently Stevenson is on 3 million per bout from Top Rank, there’s one born every minute !
Bet they’re glad he’s gone after his next display of sucking the life out of his chosen profession !

 

It is boxing though, there is a difference between fight and a boxing match.

 

Not this American. I from several generations back when our fighters weren’t afraid to lose or get stopped. I will say that fans from other nations support their fighters win, lose or draw. Americans expect perfection from their fighters and are pretty hard on them when they lose. Especially if they lose badly. It’s on to the next. I miss the days when we had an abundance of sluggers and boxer punchers like Bud.

 

Or, more than likely, we are having a different conversation about how DLS was robbed.

It's easy for the judges to say they penalized Stevenson when we knew the decision was going Shakur's way, anyhow. Close doesn't count.

 

Oh please..... spare me your self-righteous, sanctimonious bullsh*t.

You didn't "call me out" when I observed that certain fans of Eastern European fighters have rather discernible bias against American fighters, particularly black American fighters, because it fit neatly with your own predispositions. A true honest broker, something you so clearly are not, would have objected to such "lazy generalizations" about any fan base, not accept it at face value about one while oh so piously objecting to it about others. That you didn't do that indicates you're scarcely an impartial observer.

So who do you think you're kidding? I'm only guilty of engaging in "lazy generalizations" because I offended your particular sensibilities.

And not only do you suffer from hypocritical, selective outrage, you also apparently have something of a reading comprehension deficit. I stated rather clearly in a previous post that I was specifically referring to the Floyd TBE fans and the usual suspects who scored the fight for Haney.

Again, since we've already established that your real concern isn't so-called "lazy generalizations," otherwise you would have pronounced me guilty of precisely that when I said some fans of EE fighters exhibit bias toward American fighters, why do you care so much about the Floyd TBE crowd? I'm beginning to think you are one, hence your selective outrage.

And how exactly do I "view the sport?" Does that "view" include when I repeatedly defend Andre Ward against the Brits and EE fans who bash him? Tell me--who's engaging in a little lazy, superficial thinking now, my guy.

Loma-Ortiz and Loma-Haney are not even remotely analogous. But I would absolutely concede that some EE fans would undoubtedly view any Loma fight through rose colored glasses. And that's the difference between you and me. I recognize that tribalism exists in boxing--period; you recognize it when it suits you.

So feel free to "call me out" whenever the mood strikes you. You're not naively blind to the bias of some Floyd TBEs; you're just full of sh*t.

 

No fool. You are just an ignorant hater. I suggest you watch the fights again but you’re so biased it wouldn’t matter.

 

Yes, I'm so biased that I say either Haney or Loma winning is a legitimate score. Take your own advice and look in the mirror buddy.