Are Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua broken men?

He didn’t whoop AJ, both fights were close, 7 rounds to 5 for Usyk.

The outburst at the end of the second fight proves AJ is a bit of a ****wit but he’s not broken, not remotely.

 

I don't think either are broken, they are just aging

Joshua improved in the usyk rematch and dominated Franklin despite the stoppage. Helenius had success but Joshua knocked him out

I think Joshua is a better fighter than Wallin and favor him in this fight.

Fury I think has gotten complacent. He's gotten fatter and fatter and continues to win by clinching and trying to be a puncher. Footwork and skill got him to the top but his fighting style changed

I thought the best Joshua has looked was in the Ruiz rematch when he shed the muscle and showed great footwork and outside boxing. Yes Ruiz aided that performance by putting on a ton of weight but I don't think Joshua has come anywhere near that type of performance since. In that same vein I think that's what Fury needs to do I think he needs to lose 20 or 30 lb and get back to boxing

The lethargic fury we saw vs ngannou gets eaten for lunch

I will say, maybe unpopular opinion that I didn't think usyk looked that great vs Dubois. Maybe it was the layoff maybe it was the slippery canvas maybe it was the pressure of fighting in front of his fans giving everything going on in his home country. I actually thought that duboius despite losing nearly every round was able to effectively use his reach and keep usyk at bay for a lot of the fight. I think a fit fury can keep usyk at the of his jab but the fury of the last few fights won't be able to do this

 

Did Diego Corrales quit against Jose Luis Castillo when he spat his mouthpiece out?

 

Exactly. AJ has never quit in his professional career. If anything, against Ruiz, he did the opposite of quitting and kept getting up when his body couldn't take it anymore. He then went right back into the fire and beat the man he lost to emphatically. You don't do that if you quit. You run a mile and hope you never have to fight that man again.

 

AJ is finding his confidence again. Fury is just unmotivated and doesn't care.

 

Fury's body has also broken down past the point where he can hang with other professional athletes. He's got zero muscle tone these days and can't shift the flab. Reactions are eroded and punch resistance gone. He's also lost his heart to be in tough battles.

The lack of motivation and apathy comes from the fact that he knows he doesn't have it in him anymore.

 

I thought the AJ fights with Usyk were close losses.

The fallout of the second fight was his ego malfunctioning, I wasn’t impressed at all.

He’s simply not a broken fighter in my opinion, he’s merely doing his best to navigate his way back to the top.

 

One of the better short posts I've seen in a while. You have the order right too.

The OP asked if Fury or AJ are broken men, but he could've put DW in the mix too. One fight (1 round) in two years. Mr "we put our lives on the line" There are people that put their lives on the line in jobs that pay much less than what Wilder has made. AJ in chronic "tune up" mode vs. durable fringe contenders (Franklin) and washed up names (Helenius).

Here's a thought. Given Fury's state of mind, his fight vs. Francis appears to have been the bigger risk than anything AJ or Wilder have done recently. Posters calling Ngannou a "wrestler" are being deceitful. He's an MMA fighter and boxing is part of MMA and a big part of FNs game.

 

This thread is intentionally dramatic. Did a 15 yr old write this?



Neither one is “broken”. Almost all heavy weights endure a defeat, then and revise and return.

and Fury hasnot even had a defeat ……granted, it was a close call, but he did legitimately win that fight

i’m really looking forward to Wilder versus Joshua

 

Joshua is mentally broken. Fury is physically washed up.