If David Price had wilders resume?

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Price wouldn't have even got to the stage to fight for the WBC title. Price had a very shaky 1st round vs 45 year old Skelton and that was his 15th fight, the one directly before Thompson. Wilder fought several guys good enough to beat or draw with Price on a given night in his first 32 fights pre-Stiverne. Morales, Sconiers, Manswell, K. Price, Liakhovich, Firtha, Scott, Gavern. None of those are gimmes for Price.
     
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  2. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then onto the toilet roll
     
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  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Price fought Thompson in fifteen fights or so
    Wilder fought in fifteen fights
    Deandrey abron

    Levels people

    As I said they would have never put a Klitschko scalp in there with wilder in fifteen fight hell double it lol
     
  4. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Yeah the British scene... when he stepped up in levels he couldn't produce the same form could he
     
  5. iamthegreatest

    iamthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Price had his ceiling. I'd say European level at best. It's a shame as he had lots of heart and power but his stamina was poor. Always in entertaining fights though. I liked his fight against Povetkin.
     
  6. Cookiedough

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    Watched an interview with Pete DeFreitas recently. Pete described Wilder as a basket ball player with a big punch. It’s not a bad description imo. Big David Price would of given Wilder plenty to think about. David is a much more proficient boxer than Wilder, and can whack.
    I miss watching Pricey. He was exciting to watch. You knew he was vulnerable, but he could also punch. You couldn’t take your eyes off it. Great viewing, and fair play to David. It took some real guts to keep on coming back and giving it a go.
     
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  7. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excellent points here mate.
     
  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "His vulnerabilities never shown until after the Tony Thomson fights"

    45/46 year old Skelton made Price uncomfortable in the first round of their fight, the fight before his 16th against Thompson. Skelton had lost to Sprott 2 years prior, had been KO'd 3 years prior by Pulev, KO'd by Pianeta and KO'd by Rogan 4 years prior.

    All of Price's forays above domestic level ended in a KO defeat (7 in total), including his fight against Hammer.

    None of Wilder's first 32 opponents were world beaters by any stretch of the imagination but I don't see how one could be confident that Price would get through all of them (nevermind Stiverne on). These would have been some of the most obvious banana skins:

    Morales: durable and awkward spoiler, beat future world title challenger Cojanu, drew with undefeated prospects Seth Mitchell and Charles Martin

    Sconiers: veteran, on a two fight win streak, dropped Wilder, would go on to beat McCline

    K. Price: undefeated, beat undefeated Tor Hamer, who'd beat Kevin Johnson in a Prizefighter final

    Liakhovich: former WBO titlist, would go on to give Andy Ruiz a competitive 10 round distance fight

    Firtha: gave Fury a war and went the 10 round distance with Povetkin, one judge had Firtha winning 2 rounds

    Scott: was ahead on the scorecards against Chisora after 5 rounds (much better than Price managed), survived 12 against Ortiz, "drew" with Glazkov (most had Scott winning) and outboxed Thompson over 10, who KO'd Price x2
     
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  9. Justchris17

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    They are 18 stone lumps hitting each other, but criticising a boxer for being ‘uncomfortable’ But winning the fight? What boxer hasn’t been uncomfortable at some stage in their career? fury looked uncomfortable with whyte in the clinch with whytes rough house tactics but still smashed him and the fight is regarded as a walkover. Same with McDermott was uncomfortable even some think he lost but no one thinks McDermott is better. I remember an even older Skelton fighting AJ and the sky team trying justify how he is a dangerous fight lol.

    styles make fights just because one fighter beats another doesn’t mean it’s an exact science and that means another fighter wins also based on that victory. Wilder struggled with molina at times but AJ never and hardly anyone thinks aj would beat wilder. Pacman struggled with JMM’s style yet mayweather didn’t and there is still debate on who was better despite their expired sell by date fight. Ali struggled with Frazier and beat foreman yet foreman destroyed Frazier….

    Fighters have different physical characteristics which means certain styles have problems with people who have certain characteristics. In the case of wilder and price we have two rangey, powerful but limited boxers and if price had the same
    Path as wilder fighting poor opposition to pad the record I think he would have been regarded a lot higher than the domestic level he is classed as. Quality of opposition is key.

    also with prices poor stamina how much was due to his post KO mental state, being tense and scared will tire you quicker I don’t recall much stamina issues previously. My experience is only sparring and the difference being tense and not controlling your breathing is massive for how quick you tire.
     
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  10. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He loses to Fury, Ortiz and maybe Arreola and Duhuapas
     
  11. Justchris17

    Justchris17 Member Full Member

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    fury yes even though fury ducked him. Ortiz quite possibly noone knows if he was a myth though, wilder Ortiz 1 could of went either way wilder was wobbling if the ref stopped the fight it wouldn’t of been the worst stoppage I’ve seen. I disagree with arreola and duhappas but if your right he still builds up a 35 fight streak to that point
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Price got KO'd a bunch of times in the amateurs and dropped even more, his chin was always an accident waiting to happen. He had no realistic path to a title. Even with Joshua's path to Martin he'd have run into Whyte first and very likely got KO'd.

    Price had 15 fights prior to Thompson, Wilder had 32 prior to Stiverne. I don't see the guys I listed as Wilder's most obvious banana skin opponents in the first 32 (Morales, Sconiers, K. Price, Liakhovich, Firtha, Scott) as walkovers for Price. It's very likely that at least one, probably more would have got results against him.
     
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I still don't get the point of this thread
     
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  14. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Ah ****
    Who left the door open
     
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  15. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Me neither, Wilder's resume maybe thin but David Price could never do it beyond national level.