I don't believe that Benavidez is a weight bully.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MetalLicker, Nov 25, 2023.


Page 1 of 3
  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

    24,149
    27,769
    Feb 10, 2011
    Yes, he looks tall for 168, but he doesn't have much muscle tone. His arms are long and lean. He doesn't have broad shoulders and his upper body is fairly lean. He's nothing like Ramirez, who has broad shoulders and a bigger frame.

    He missed weight once in his career and it was probably due to lack of proper training. Ever since then, he was able to make weight easily and coming in at 167 many times. A weight bully wouldn't come in a whole pound under on a consistent basis.

    David is just tall and lean. He is not muscular, and it doesn't look like he's draining himself. He can probably move up to 175, but I don't believe he is a weight bully.

    Here is a photo of Benavidez standing next to Andrade. You can clearly tell that he doesn't have a big upper body.

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/wp-con....24.23_11_25_2023_Weigh-in-1Boxing-Photos.jpg
     
    MetalLicker, Nov 25, 2023
    MetalLicker, Nov 25, 2023
    #1
  2. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,357
    4,781
    Mar 8, 2008
    It’s a made up term
     
    vargasfan1985, Nov 25, 2023
    vargasfan1985, Nov 25, 2023
    #2
    ShovelHook, Perkin Warbeck, KO KIDD and 3 others like this.
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    29,232
    18,647
    Jul 19, 2004
    No one walks around at their fighting weight. If you make weight you make weight. You are only a weight bully if you don't make weight and pay the other guy to still fight you.
     
    lobk, Nov 25, 2023
    lobk, Nov 25, 2023
    #3
    ALEX FORRESTER, ShovelHook, Dementia Pugulistica and 6 others like this.
  4. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,068
    27,761
    Jul 26, 2004
    I believe weight bullies exist.

    Fighters that spend a disproportionate amount of resources on making weight classes, relative to their opposition, usually at the expense of their overall health, and constantly outweigh their opponents on fight night, while often relying on the advantages being bigger give them, are weight bullies, imo.

    As for Videz, it's hard to say if he is or not. He didn't look super drained at the weigh in, and we don't know their fight night weights.

    Meaningless side note.

    Have a boxing coworker who is slightly slightly bigger than me. I'm 5'10 and a trim 195lbs. He has some pictures with David and David completely dwarfs him lol. And it's not just height, it's frame, head, neck, ect.

    Dudes huge. Crazy to me that I'm a relatively skinny 195lbs, and I'd have to drop almost 30lbs just to be a midget against 168lbs'ers lol.
     
    kirk, Nov 25, 2023
    kirk, Nov 25, 2023
    #4
    CST80, ShovelHook, NullaLexInk and 3 others like this.
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,634
    11,811
    Jul 1, 2010
    Andrade was 190lbs rehydrated.
     
    UniversalPart, Nov 25, 2023
    UniversalPart, Nov 25, 2023
    #5
    ShovelHook, Perkin Warbeck and MismatchHypejob like this.
  6. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,084
    5,757
    Nov 24, 2019
    Benavidez is actually quite big, well built, naturally athletic without too many muscles and that suits him...
     
    CroBox29, Nov 25, 2023
    CroBox29, Nov 25, 2023
    #6
  7. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

    1,165
    1,398
    Jul 30, 2018
    A trim 195lb???
     
    James Hudson, Nov 25, 2023
    James Hudson, Nov 25, 2023
    #7
  8. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,943
    1,070
    Jan 7, 2009
    We didn’t see the weigh-in. we saw the show/act.
     
    SpeedKills, Nov 25, 2023
    SpeedKills, Nov 25, 2023
    #8
    Dementia Pugulistica and box33 like this.
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    36,803
    29,358
    Feb 25, 2015
    Pro boxers don't carry a lot of muscle mass at all. They actually try to lose mass without sacrificing strength. A big puffed up 200 pound bodybuilder will look small next to a world class Supermiddleweight.
     
    tinman, Nov 26, 2023
    tinman, Nov 26, 2023
    #9
  10. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

    1,391
    1,431
    Aug 24, 2022
    Andrade was a weight bully at 160lbs and is very big himself. Benavidez IS a weight bully at 168lbs.
     
    MismatchHypejob, Nov 26, 2023
    MismatchHypejob, Nov 26, 2023
    #10
    I Dont Play With Dolls likes this.
  11. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

    2,858
    5,015
    Mar 10, 2022
    You just made Jermall Charlo's ears burn :lol:
     
    NullaLexInk, Nov 26, 2023
    NullaLexInk, Nov 26, 2023
    #11
    lobk likes this.
  12. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,957
    3,442
    Jul 25, 2021
    Really Looked even bigger.
     
    box33, Nov 26, 2023
    box33, Nov 26, 2023
    #12
  13. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,957
    3,442
    Jul 25, 2021
    Why are boxing starting to do this like MMA now? It all started with Garcia/Tank
     
    box33, Nov 26, 2023
    box33, Nov 26, 2023
    #13
  14. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    29,304
    15,162
    Dec 6, 2008
    You cannot be skinny at 5'10 195. That's a big weight for a 5'10 guy.
     
    Babality, Nov 26, 2023
    Babality, Nov 26, 2023
    #14
    cslb, ShovelHook and AngryBirds like this.
  15. AngryBirds

    AngryBirds Well-Known Member banned Full Member

    1,840
    2,021
    Sep 3, 2022
    If you are 200 pounds and drop down to 168 to beat up guys who are naturally 170, max 180, you ARE a weight bully.
     
    AngryBirds, Nov 26, 2023
    AngryBirds, Nov 26, 2023
    #15
    PrinceVegeta and bjl12 like this.
Page 1 of 3