Anthony David Benavidez vs Demetrius Andrade & Subriel Matias vs Shohjahon Ergashev - Round by Round

steviebruno · Nov 26, 2023

I didn't see any Callum Smith discussions until people started calling for Benavidez vs. Canelo again.

What a strange coincidence...

CST80 · Nov 26, 2023

steviebruno said: ↑

I didn't see any Callum Smith discussions until people started calling for Benavidez vs. Canelo again.

What a strange coincidence...
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Who the hell is calling for Smith vs. Benavidez? I was responding to a poster glibly denigrating and dismissing Bivol, in kind. By glibly implying, I doubt Benavidez gets past Smith, much less Bivol. Your reading comprehension appears to be compromised.

CST80 · Nov 26, 2023

Mark Anthony said: ↑

Smith is crap.
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Losing to an elite fighter doesn't mean you're crap, nor does struggling with a stylistic nightmare. Is Benavidez crap because he struggled with Gavril and looked terrible against Denis Douglin, while losing several rounds in the process?

Reppin501 · Nov 26, 2023

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Yep, and I'm the one guy on this site that predicted John Ryder would work over Callum, and why did I predict that? Because styles makes fights, that's why. Not that I feel like trotting out that played out idiom, but in this case, it's very much applicable. Now, please tell me what Benavidez has in common with a short defensively sound compact southpaw with one of the best inside games in the business? Not a goddamn thing. If you stand in front of Callum Smith, you're in his line of fire and he can and most likely will hurt you. You square up like David tends to do, that could very well spell doom. How soon people forget, Callum was a beast at Super Middleweight, won the WBSS, but then clearly the weight started to become an issue. His last two matches at 168 he looked like a corpse at the weigh ins. But thus far at 175, he's looked like an absolute killer, and unlike Benavidez winning on accumulation, he's one shot sleeping mother****ers. Benavidez has been stunned several times and dropped. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that a guy with the power of Smith can put his lights out.
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I agree, Callum would be a problem for DB.

Carinito · Nov 26, 2023

CST80 said: ↑

Yep, and I'm the one guy on this site that predicted John Ryder would work over Callum, and why did I predict that? Because styles makes fights, that's why. Not that I feel like trotting out that played out idiom, but in this case, it's very much applicable. Now, please tell me what Benavidez has in common with a short defensively sound compact southpaw with one of the best inside games in the business? Not a goddamn thing. If you stand in front of Callum Smith, you're in his line of fire and he can and most likely will hurt you. You square up like David tends to do, that could very well spell doom. How soon people forget, Callum was a beast at Super Middleweight, won the WBSS, but then clearly the weight started to become an issue. His last two matches at 168 he looked like a corpse at the weigh ins. But thus far at 175, he's looked like an absolute killer, and unlike Benavidez winning on accumulation, he's one shot sleeping mother****ers. Benavidez has been stunned several times and dropped. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that a guy with the power of Smith can put his lights out.
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I'm one of the very few that thinks Callum can upset Beterbiev.

NoChin · Nov 26, 2023

Benavidez would beat that overrated Alvarez pony.

Not a fan. GGG beat him at least once.

CST80 · Nov 26, 2023

Carinito said: ↑

I'm one of the very few that thinks Callum can upset Beterbiev.
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You're not alone. Since writing this, I've flat out settled on picking Smith.

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Yeah he's a bad fight for him, Callum I have a sneaking suspicion is far more durable than Anthony Yarde and the far more talented boxer. Also at LHW, he clearly appears to be far more heavy handed. Clearly Beterbiev is showing his age, he was stunned several times by Yarde and was either up or down a point on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Well if he gets into a fire fight with Callum, like he did with Yarde, that might be end well for him, Callum is rangier than Yarde, gets full extension on his shots, and he's faster. Sure he struggled mightily with Ryder and Canelo, but both of them present a set of stylistic challenges that Beterbiev doesn't. First he was getting really tight at the weight, his power was faded, second they were short, compact, and not easy open targets to land on, Canelo's defense at the time was almost impenetrable, and John Ryder takes full advantage of his southpaw stance. So he could've teed off all he wanted, all it would've done is provide them more openings. Clearly the Browne, Deines and Yarde fights proved that Artur is flagging, there's not a chance they'd have made it past the 2nd or 3rd round with the Beterbiev from 2015. So if Callum pushes him back, controls the range fairly well, and throws in fast sharp long combinations, he has a chance of catching him, and putting his down like the other Callum did. Will he win, not ready to call the upset and pick Callum, but it also wouldn't shock me in the least.
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Mark Anthony · Nov 27, 2023

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Losing to an elite fighter doesn't mean you're crap, nor does struggling with a stylistic nightmare. Is Benavidez crap because he struggled with Gavril and looked terrible against Denis Douglin, while losing several rounds in the process?
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Smith looked awful v Canelo.

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