Who has the greater legacy, Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder?

Wrong

 

Bottom line: the bodybuilder is 1-3 in his four most significant fights despite managing to avoid Ortiz, Wilder and Fury:

- Beat Fury-victim 41 year old Wlad in a life and death in London

- Destroyed by fringe contender 25/1 underdog Andy Ruiz, dropped four times and quit in 7

- Schooled twice by a featherfisted cruiser whose best win at heavy was an unexpectedly tough and competitive distance fight with Chisora

NO LEGACY

 

Wilders resume is a disgrace for a guy with as many defenses as he has. People defending him should feel ashamed.

 

He's fought Fury x3 you muppet.

 

Bwahaha. Your idol avoided that featherfisted cruiser like the plague for two years now. If Joshua is crap for getting beat by Usyk, imagine how crap Fury must be for ducking him like that.

I love it when casuals who can’t build logical arguments shoot themselves in the foot like that. Keep them coming, mate, it’s comedy gold.

 

AJ and it isn't close.

AJ reminds me very much of Wlad in terms of the circumstances around his ascension, but it still remains the case that he was the best around.

Wilder never has been.

 

Usyk had bodybuilder business to attend to in 2021 and 2022, admitted to not being able to fight Fury in 2022 because of "injuries, family and wanting a break from training camp" and had been avoiding the heavyweight division for whatever reason until 2019/2020.

I'm apparently a "casual", yet you claim that a fully focused *Andy Ruiz* would be the biggest threat to Usyk. Ok son.

 

"but it still remains the case that he was the best around."

Joshua never beat the man, whether he was No.1 was always highly speculative. He proved that he wasn't when Andy Ruiz made him quit.

 

As it stands:

Joshua will mainly be remembered for quitting against 25/1 underdog, 6', morbidly obese Ruiz (plus turning into a ballerina against the untrained blob in the rematch) and being schooled twice by cruiser Usyk

Wilder will mainly be remembered for his classic trilogy with Wlad-dethroner Fury and possibly being the biggest puncher in boxing history

 

For the intellectually challenged:

Wilder would have more wins against ranked opponents if he hadn't fought Wlad-dethroner Fury x3. The likes of Parker, Ruiz and Whyte are firmly in the 2nd tier and are very soft touches relative to Fury. And although it was initially unexpected, Wilder took a lot of damage in his trilogy with Fury, which added significant age/wear and hinders his ability to win future fights against pedestrian contenders like Parker, Ruiz and Whyte. Had he avoided Fury, Wilder could easily be 46-0 right now.

 

AJ by Far.
Gold>Bronze
Parker/Wlad/Povetkin/Competitive w/ Usyk in second fight > Draw w/ Fury/Ortiz x 2/bum of the month club.

I give Wilder a partial pass thought because his side of the street doesn't play well with others. I think Wilder in his prime would have given most guys on AJ's record a beat down. But we'll never know. Head 2 Head as well I'd give him a good shot just based on styles.