How is/was Randy Turpin viewed in the UK ?

jofre had a great career, turpin had a great fight.

i think english people who actually know about both guys would have jofre on a different level.

 

all i can really say is both my grandads were boxing fans and i can't remember either of them talking about turpin.

shame that jofre is forgotten in brazil. he shouldn't be.

 

Well he wasn't really regarded as the pfp GOAT then though and like I said Honeyghan is a fair comparison i'd say. I know the SRR win is greater but both still huge upsets vs boxing 'then' #1 rated guy (SRR almost unanimously, Curry in boxing's only publications which had a pfp list then).

If Randy had held the title a bit longer and made some defences then he'd have been a much bigger star in all likelihood...but 2 months later it was all gone. Also, if he'd had been a big much-loved name before the fight, that win would have built massively on this, like Cooper was able to in his fight with Clay, even though he didn't even win it.

 

dad's dad was ali all the way, so his top british boxer was cooper. mum's dad was with whoever was doing it that day, the last time i was with him we watched khan vs kindelan from his hospital bed, so i guess he went out supporting khan.

I grew up in skateparks and disrespected soft mediums like snow and water, then i got older and tried that stuff and it hurts. whoever medina is, he deserves the props, surfing is gnarly (and that's before the sharks come).

 

Sadly forgotten

 

Don't understand why Vic. They both beat great American fighters. OK Curry as it turns out was nowhere near as great as Robinson, but at the time Honeyghan beat him, experts were saying he was the man too move up and beat Marvin Hagler. Yes true. Weight was used as an excuse for his loss. A difference was Turpin was on home soil, Honethgan wasn't. Also it was rumoured Robinson was in the middle of a European tour and hadn't been training properly.
Look at Turpin's career BEFORE Robinson. Some losses on it, including I think one stoppage. No massive names . AFTER didn't he get a vacant title fight with Bobo Olson who beat him clearly, including knockdowns.
AND he got stopped by Robinson in the return. Great win but less not get ahead of ourselves. Think Tyson Fury beating Wlad and doing nothing afterwards.

 

True. The names on Jofres record when he was champion are infinitely better than those on Turpin's. Stacks of nationalities. Turpin's were mainly Brits and Europeans.
Didn't Jofre come back after a very long layoff and beat Vicente Saldivar, who the great Howard Winstone couldn't beat? Thats like Turpin coming back after two years and beating Dick Tiger. And in my opinion he wouldn't have.

 

Surely he was older than Jofre though? And I remember him as a hell of a fighter. Just my opinion but I rate Jofre as an ATG and Turpin as well short of being that. Im going to upset a lot of British people by saying that I know.

 

I doubt that would upset even one British person, never mind "a lot".

 

Iirc correctly Saldivar was 30 & Jofre 37. Saldivar was inactive & past prime, though.

Jofre's comeback (after the defeats vs Harada) up at FW is one of the most underrated & greatest in history. A natural BW, he went 25-0 at FW, beating ATG FW, 7-year young Vicente Saldivar, the excellent Jose Legra for the WBS strap (the bigger Legra was 128-9-4 going into the fight), Octavio Gomez and a few other half decent FWs.

 

the question was more about public opinion at the time than our atg rankings.

i been learning some stuff about this the last few days. turpin was viewed as kinda lucky and robinson as a guy on holiday. fight fans took it half seriously.