2 questions about Carlos Palomino

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  1. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    1. Where do you rank him among the greatest Mexican fighters of all time?

    2. Have you ever seen his fight against Wilfredo Rivera? If so, how he managed to stay relatively competitive against a fighter who gave hard times to prime Mosley and Oscar at the ridiculously ancient age for this weight class - 48
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really like Carlos, I'd have like to have seen a rematch with Benitez. His fight with Duran was simply taking on a fighter that was better than he was and through the years he basically admitted it.
     
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  3. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think of him kind of like Nino Benvenuti, Emile Griffith, Donald Curry. A great fighter, but not an ATG.
     
  4. Keleneki

    Keleneki Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unlike Alexis Arguello, I actually saw and was standing a few feet away from Carlos Palomino when my Uncle Reggie Ho took me to the movie set for the Fists of Steel in Waikiki that they acted in. I watched him get instructions for his part for a few minutes then my uncle took me to the dressing room area in the parking lot by the boat docks and showed me Alexis Arguello's dressing room, before taking me to his own dressing room. The first and only time I ever partied in an actual TV/movie actor's dressing room. That was a super good fun night!

    When I was watching Carlos Palomino listen to the director (or whoever it was who he was listening to), I kept thinking to myself, "Wow! Even though he lost the decisions, he fought Wilfred Benitez and Roberto Duran back to back! What a bada$$! mfer!"
     
  5. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    I didn't see the rivera fight so can't comment, but he most likely makes a top 50 greatest from Mexico. A very good fighter and a hall of famer, but not quite an ATG.
     
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  6. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    I think he should be MUCH higher than in top-50 Mexican fighters of all time. Top 20 definitely
     
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    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Mexico has a LOT of great fighters. I am not sure he makes top 20, but probably top 30. His career was really short. He definitely had the talent for being greater.
     
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  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    More wins in WW lineal world title fights than either SRR or SRL, lineal champion at MW, a world title at LWM, wins over Dick Tiger x 2, Nino Benvenuti, LMR x 3, Benny Paret x 2, Joey Archer x 2, Gaspar Ortega, Florentino Fernandez and Jorge Fernanzez x 3 - Emile Griffith is unequivocally an ATG.
     
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  9. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Not sure where I would rank him, obvs below the, JCC, Olivares, Sanchez, Canelo, Saldivar, Canto, and Zarates, of the Mexican lineage, but not all much lower, maybe around 10 to 15 ? not given it much thought, as a fighter he is one of my favs, not the boxer Benitez was, not the puncher Caevus was, not flash like Leonard, no tassles, no showboating, he was the consummate pro, always in great shape, he looked like he would be better suited fighting last century in the fights to the finish, his fighting dna was unhurried, he liked to take a few rounds to size up his opponent, he punched sparingly at times, probing for a weakness, he possess great chin, up with the best of the division, even the heaviest of shots only stunned him for a second, when in full flow, he was a formidable adversary, his jab was accurate and hurtful, but it was his body punching that reaped the rewards, not thrown wide oh no, they were short and damaging, they didn't appear that hard from the safety of the crowd, but Dave Green has told me that after half a dozen rounds or so, you have trouble feeling and controlling your legs, such was their impact, so a ATG , no as posters have already said , but a bloody good fighter, yes !!
    Stay safe amigo, chat soon.
     
  10. Greg Price99

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    Excellent post Mike, exactly how I see it, too.
     
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  11. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    I believe Palomino is ranked #34 of best Mexican boxers of all time.
     
  12. janwalshs

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    I can't comment on his ranking of all-time great Mexican fighters as I'm not familiar enough with all of them but I will say this. I wish I had his genes! I've seen numerous videos of him being interviewed and working out and he looks great for someone over 70 years old. Looks like he could still give some of the young guys a tough go of it.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    He's a great fighter. Hard to say where I rank him against other Mexicans.
     
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    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    This lineup is ranked in order. I am sure a handful are up for debate but for the most part I think its fair to rank Carlos Palomino at #34.
    Thoughts?

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Salvador Sanchez
    5. Jose Napoles
    6. Erik Morales
    7. Ruben Olivares
    8. Ricardo lopez
    9. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
    10. Jorge Arce
    11. Canelo Alvarez
    12. Vicente Saldivar
    13. Carlos Zarate
    14. baby Arizmendi
    15. Jose Luis Ramirez
    16. Robert Guerrero
    17. Victor Ortiz
    18. Jose Luis Castillo
    19. Rocky Juarez
    20. Vincent Escobedo
    21. Javier Molina
    22. Alfonso Gomez
    23. Abner Mares
    24. Juan De La Rosa
    25. Julio Diaz
    26. Steve Luevano
    27. B.J Flores
    28. Antonio Margarito
    29. Rafael Marquez
    30. Miguel Canto
    31. Guty Espadas
    32. Johnny Gozalez
    33. Rafael Herrera
    #34. Carlos Palomino
     
  15. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That’s an absolutely terrible list.