Golovkin vs Mike McCallum

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  1. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it would be a very close fight. Both are skilled, and, have excellent chins. But, I think McCallum would edge him by a point or two. The Body Snatcher has beaten a much wider variety (and higher caliber) of fighters than Golovkin did. Furthermore, although Golovkin has an iron chin, I noticed in the Canelo fights that he doesn't seem to like it to the body. And, that is McCallum's bread and butter.
     
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yet none of his wins are against anyone remotely close to McCallum's level.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Close fight two technicians who fight on the front foot, Golovkin has the edge in power. But McCallum is a smoother boxer, both are good body punchers, both have solid chins.

    Overall it would go to the scorecards and would be close, it depends who's the A side at the time would determine who earns a close decision.
     
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  4. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tough fight for both. I think this can go either way, although I might lean more towards McCallum who does better against fighters that come to him and GGG's stalking style will give McCallum more opportunities for his counterpunching.
     
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  5. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Murata is nowhere near as slick though. His style played right into GGG's hands.
     
  6. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep. Murata is a great guy but he cannot be described as a boxer in the same sentence as McCallum. The fact he went as long as he did with a past prime GGG is a testament to his endurance and strength but leagues below McCallum in skill.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Great fight. McCalllum was a fantastic fighter and technician with a lovely fluid, effortless and relaxed style and he's one of my favourites.

    With the possible exception of Julian Jackson who was obviously a lethal one punch KO artist, GGG would have the heaviest hands of anyone Mike fought or certainly below 175, and unlike Jackson who didn't have the greatest set of whiskers GGG's are pure iron. Both GGG and McCallum threw a lot of leather, had great chins and elite skills, and liked a fight so it would very likely be a very close high skill classic.

    I still maintain that the best version of GGG was the pre-Sanchez trained one and I wish we'd seen that version of him at the world level.
     
  8. BCS8

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    That is your opinion. McCallum has a number of losses on his record.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    MM outboxes G for a very tight Decision
     
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  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes because what you're saying has no context.

    Your original comment was "I'll pick the guy who has the most Middleweight title defences"

    That's like me saying i favour Dariusz Michalczewski over any Light Heavyweight because of his record amount of title defences not taking consideration the level of competition.

    And now your other comment is "McCallum has a number of losses on his record"

    Again no context to this post what so ever McCallum never lost in his prime weight of Jr Middleweight going 33-0. His only loss in what could be considered his prime is to Kalambay who is better than any Middleweight Golovkin beat and McCallum revenged the loss.

    His other losses were at age 35 vs a prime James Toney who again is by far better than anyone Golovkin beat, and then you have another loss to a prime RJJ at age 40 way past his best and way above his best weightclass at Light Heavyweight.

    I'm not saying this fight wouldn't be close and a pick em because it would. But there's no real evidence on Golovkin's resume that he necessarily should be favoured over someone of McCallum's level.
     
  12. Noel857

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    Excellent post
     
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  13. BCS8

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    No evidence except that he consistently performed better on the highest level for longer.

    You're stating opinions as though they were facts. In my opinion Canelo is better at middleweight than Toney. In my opinion guys like Jacobs and Derevyanchenko would have given a guy like Toney all he could handle.

    McCallum scraped through his best opponents like Graham and lost to others like Toney and Kalambay. Kalambay himself has a heavily padded record up to the point where he managed to beat Herol Graham. The majority of his record is utter fluff that GGG would have been put on the rack for.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    They were both performing at a high level for atleast 10 year period, except McCallum challenged himself more by moving up in weight and fought more notable names and tougher opposition overall.

    But he never beat Canelo that's why i said "Golovkin never beat anyone as good as fighters like Toney, Kalambay."

    And you would be in a very small minority that believes Canelo is a better H2H fighter than Toney at Middleweight or Super Middleweight if we are talking about both fighters at their best.

    And just to flip the argument you can easily say fighters like Kalambay, Toney, would give Golovkin hell. I'm not even sure he beats either of them at their best to be quite frank.

    Kalmabay has wins over Barkley, McCallum, Graham, Collins, who are far more notable opponents than 90 percent of Golovkin's title challengers.

    And if Golovkin fought prime versions of Graham, Kalambay, Toney, how would he fare ? when has Golovkin fought an ultra slick awkward Southpaw like Graham ? when has Golovkin fought a master counter puncher like Kalambay with great movement ? and when has Golovkin fought a master boxer like Toney ?

    And didn't Golovkin scrap through his best opponents aswell ? the two best Middleweights Golovkin beat were Jacobs in which he barely won a SD, and Derevyanchenko who alot of people think could've easily of won a decision vs Golovkin.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    You’re not serious.
     
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