Is Floyd Mayweather overrated?

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Is Floyd Mayweather overrated?

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  1. No, he's the best ever like he says

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  2. Yes, he was carefully matched

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didn’t you have a mental breakdown when people call Loma overrated. But when someone says Floyd is overrated it’s just discussion. Keep begging for my attention Lance you little female dog.
     
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  2. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Hey, if your argument is that the weight had nothing to do with Hatton struggling with Collazo, I think that we agree.

    It's not like he ever ran into a Collazo style fighter at 140 to even compare, and he looked just fine until he started getting punched in the face, anyway.

    Maybe Hatton just wasn't all that great, even at 140?

    Just a thought.

    Moron.
     
  3. thehook13

    thehook13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just saw him advertising Plastic Surgery centres on insta. Stay classy, TBE
     
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  4. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    You do realise this is a thread about Mayweather, right?

    The point in my original post is that Mayweather fought a trashier version of Hatton (who isn’t that good to begin with). You questioning Hatton wasn’t that great to begin just strengthens my original point, which I suspect is not something your responses have been about
     
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  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A breakdown? Nope. People can call him overrated all they want. I'm not a pissy little schoolgirl like you are....
     
  6. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Unless you have any objective proof that Hatton is much better at 140 than he is at 147, I am not sure why your are so adament that Floyd fought a lesser version.

    The Hatton that got staggered vs. Collazo doesn't magically morph into a different fighter by losing more weight. That silly theory should have been put to bed with the Pacquiao fight.

    He'd get hit the same against a 140lb Collazo style fighter.

    Maybe you can explain why Hatton puts up a better fight at 140 against Floyd. What changes, in your opinion?
     
  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not rocket science if you've watched Hatton at both weights. Hatton struggling with a C-B level Collazo at 147 should be proof enough. 146 was simply not Hatton's optimal weight. You're arguing just for the sake of it...
     
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  8. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Hatton's 40-0 record prior to Collazo was at 140lbs...Collazo was his first fight at 147lbs and Hatton looked bad, hence moving back down to 140lbs. Also, Collazo himself beat no-one of note. It's not hard to understand that fighting at one weight your entire career means your adjusted to that weight (140lbs in this example) and that fighting others in a bigger weight class (147lbs) means your fighting outside the weight you've historically weighed in at, hence not adjusted (do I really have to explain this?). The opponents Hatton fights at 147lbs are those that have experience fighting 147lbers (which he was not).

    You, yourself, have no proof Hatton is as good as he was at 147lbs as he was at 140lbs. My case that Hatton was best at 140lbs is clearer than yours. Ultimate point, MW fought the shittier version of Hatton
     
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  9. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Collazo was a good fighter, bro. Better than anyone Hatton fought at 140 outside of Tsyzu.
     
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  10. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    What was your main account?
     
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  11. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he's arguing because he's very partial to Floyd...for unknown reasons.
     
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  12. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ..."trust me bro"...

    @MismatchHypejob @The Real Lance
     
  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup
     
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup again, lol
     
  15. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Collazo beat Ortiz and should've gotten the nod against an undefeated Andre Berto. I wouldn't call him C level, as he was better than anyone Hatton had fought outside of Tszyu.

    Hatton was 40-0, but he had fought exactly one fighter who posed a serious challenge to him. He moved up and fought a very solid welterweight who was bigger and had spent his entire career there.

    His next figjt at welter would be against one of the GOATs, and he got dealt with in the same way that he would've been dealt with at 140.

    If there is any doubt, think about what happened when he fought another ATG at 140 after moving back down to a weight where he was allegedly better.

    Hatton was the same guy at 140 and 147. His mauling style simply did not succeed against better, stronger, more versatile fighters.

    He'd have lost to Bradley at 140. Cotto, too. He'd have his hands full with an Amir Khan. Please stop pretending that his 40-0 record meant more than it actually did.
     
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