Francis Ngannou ranking

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is hilarious. If it hadn't been obvious for years boxrecs "algorithm" can be influenced with envelopes stuffed with cash, it should be now.

    He was ranked around #500 with 0-1-0 only last week.

    Other examples of this was when they completely rejigged the whole ranking system to keep Wilder in the top 3 after Fury v Wilder 2. Which caused a mess of all the other divisions as well. That was the start of the end for any pretence of legitimacy boxrec might have once held on to.
     
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  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup, any coincidence that they had Frank Warren citing boxrec rankings in the run up to Fury v Chisora? With Chisora ranked in the top 6. :risas3:

    The whole of boxing is crooked it seems. With people getting into the periphery of the sport with the long term goal of selling out.

    It's like that website Lineal.com which started out as a Facebook page claiming Fury was lineal champion after his drug fueled hiatus. Then to give it more legitimacy "someone" financed a fancy looking website.

    The whole sport is a sad joke nowadays. It's just promoters playing "might makes right" and "history is written by the winner". Flooding every information channel possible with mistruth. Everything is spin.

    In terms of rankings
    I used to like PBO, which was a true algorithm rating system based on results, but sadly it looks like they gave up a few years back.
    TBRB is probably the best these days
     
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  3. wibispo

    wibispo Brazil Full Member

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    It must be said that Murat Gassiev's position in 8 is also quite strange.
     
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  4. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very strange, he was a world class cruiserweight but he’s done little at heavyweight and lost to Otto Wallin. He’s a top 25 guy but he simply does not belong in the top 10.
     
  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    This exposes 1 of 2 things. How boxing is weak or Ngannou is just that good. I haven't the wisdom to say.
     
  6. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Right , and the result was ngannou plug and play brought the #1 wbc world champion on the edge of a defeat . He deserves his ranking .
     
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  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No he doesn’t, one loss shouldn’t get you a ranking.
     
  9. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not in this case, they have to try and find a way to make Fury’s awful performance look better.
     
  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    And Dubois ranking at 4 is very dubious.
    Actually it makes sense, he had a close fight with Fury (I thought he deserved to win).
     
  11. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So Fury should be #24?
     
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  12. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    How Ngannou would be ranked if the fight ended in a draw? According to sound logic - certainly better ranked than with one defeat.
    How would Ngannou be ranked if he beat Fury? According to sound logic - certainly better than with one fight that ended in a draw.
     
  13. wibispo

    wibispo Brazil Full Member

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    Boxrec ratings are made based on the fighter's results, and the results of the fighters he faced (and eventually beat). There is no way that a fighter with only one fight that ended in defeat deserves to be in any position below 200. As said, he was close to position 500, which is correct.
     
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  14. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because of his good performance against Fury, he won the hearts of casual fans and casual fans work on the Boxrec website...
     
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  15. wibispo

    wibispo Brazil Full Member

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    Just look at the other boxers in the top 50: all of them, except Ngannou, have between 10 and 30 fights with very few or no losses. Those who have fewer fights won against ranked fighters.
     
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