I think Parker is going to expose/dismantle everything Wilder is, a pure business protected hypejob.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Haviton, Dec 5, 2023.


Final poll - who wins this

  1. Parker decision

    14 vote(s)
    10.4%
  2. Parker KO

    17 vote(s)
    12.7%
  3. Wilder KO

    100 vote(s)
    74.6%
  4. Wilder decision

    3 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson Fury has been the best heavyweight in the world for years. Wilder defended his title against Fury twice and went to court to challenge him for the title once. Wilder floored him four times.

    Ortiz was undefeated in fight one and was one of the top heavyweights in the world both times. Wilder floored him four times and stopped him twice.

    Stiverne was the WBC #1 contender, Breazeale was the WBC mandatory, Helenius was the WBA #2 contender ... and Wilder stopped them all in one round.

    They all "sucked" so bad, Helenius blackened both of Joshua's eyes and gave him a tough night last time out. Two years after fighting Wilder, Stiverne went six rounds with Joyce. And, other than Wilder, Breazeale has only lost to Joshua and a decision to Wallin.

    Now, tell me how bad-ass Shawndell Winters is?
    Or Faiga Opelu, whoever the hell he is. Tell me how Hughie is better than Tyson?

    Tell me how a guy who has been outweighed in every fight for nearly a dozen years, often by a lot, was protected?

    (Can you even name another heavyweight in the world who was outweighed by every opponent he faced for nearly a dozen years?)

    Tell me how the guy who has been fighting better opposition than any other heavy over the last eight fights, is protected?

    If he was protected, he'd have been fighting at cruiser with all the other heavyweights masquerading as cruisers.

    Tell me how the seven years younger, 30 pounds heavier Parker is going to destroy chicken legs Wilder?

    And, when old man Wilder knocks out the much heavier, much younger Parker, come back and tell us all how Wilder was being protected by fighting Parker.
     
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  2. BlackDog

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    First of all, relax... You sound like child who is few seconds to start crying.
    Second.
    You dont read my post or You just ignore it? Because there I will give You answer for all this "nice talk".

    "Tyson Fury has been the best heavyweight in the world for years"

    No in first fight. He comeback after years of drugs and alcohol abuse and he even cant knocked out Francesco Planeta. I tell You more. He even cant put him on canvas even once... When Wilder choose him he was not best option in any way.
    Other time when Fury was this numero uno Wilder was badly beaten.

    Ortiz as I said is good fight but he dont do many to have another shots.

    "Stiverne was the WBC #1 contender, Breazeale was the WBC mandatory, Helenius was the WBA #2 contender"

    Yes. And it was bad joke. I write above about it.
    There was time when Mariusz Wach was number 4 on the world by WBC :hang

    Stiverne go 6 rounds with Joyce is nothing pride.
    Same as Breazele WHO fight life to death with Ugonoh.

    You said Joshua got hard night with Helenius and soo what? He end being knockedout hard and was on PEDS.

    And wth with this weight argument? You know Wach was heavier than Klitschko? xD
    Wilder is bigger than almost all of his opponent... Pls dude.

    And he dont have best resume in last 8 fights. It is Your dream probably where Stiverne should really be mandatory....
     
  3. Salty Dog

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    10/10 it could totally go that way.

    On the other hand we might end up with precisely the opposite outcome and Parker will finally be stripped of his questionable mythos. He has one questionable win many years ago over the stubby Ruiz that is aging like milk. Not sure it's a better win than Wilder's first win over Ortiz. Beyond that, it's pretty much a wash if you ask me.

    Bat**** crazy though he is, there's no denying Wilder has balls. Parker hasn't shown me a lot of want-to any time recently (if ever).

    I'll take Wilder by KO6-9 down on the cards at the time of the stoppage.
     
  4. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You mean the time Helenius robbed Chisora blind in what was one of the most disgraceful decisions in recent heavyweight history?
     
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  5. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Ach I forgot to write about it! When I read it I was think "WTF dude, You even watch fight what You talking about".

    Good job. I after training and shopping miss that part.
     
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  6. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So many posters on here have an agenda, where it be against Joshua or Wilder. What happened to the objectivity? I like both guys, they are two very good heavyweights and I’m happy to finally see them on the same card. Why do people have to keep hating?
     
  7. BlackDog

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    I dont like Wilder but still accept that he is top Hw and very dangerous opponent for ALL. IMO he can lose to some dudes but also I understand that he can win with all of them.

    Personal I dont like him because he choose "wrong side" of fame. I like more boxers who respect others, being humble and do more than talking.

    Wilder for me is perfect example what money and sucses can do to happy, shy person when his mental isn't ready for all this.

    I remeber Wilder when he go to Tomasz Adamek camp for Vitaly. Totally different person. Dont think that this boy from that time would leave wife and talk about dream for legal kill someone in the ring.

    But whatever
     
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  8. nixxter

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    Wilder is a protected bum-beating fraud with bambi legs and a china chin. His best win is a 40-year-old grandpa with a heart condition.

    Parker is not a chinny Cuban senior citizen.. he'll be Wilder's second best opponent after Fury.

    Parker is young, active, iron-chinned and has enough skills and power to handle an overhyped one-trick pony like Wilder.

    Parker by KO.
     
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  9. Salty Dog

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    Nice post. Pretty much sums up my feelings on the dude. I think he got in over his head with the yes men. Maybe he's grown up some. Being sucked up to can **** a dude up as much as it ****s up the brown nosers.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    Oh, bull. Even the overzealous British announcers calling the Helenius-Chisora fight had it 5-5-1 going into round 12, and one British announcer had Chisora winning the last round and the other had Helenius (who rocked Chisora big twice in the last round).

    And the two British guys calling it admitted afterward it was incredibly close.

    Everything is the "most disgraceful" decison ever around here. o_O

    And Helenius did that with a shoulder that was so injured it had to be reconstructed and the surgery took him nearly a year to recover from.

    What was Parker's excuse for hitting the deck and barely winning against an aged Chisora with 10 lossses?

    Of the two, THAT (Parker's first win over Chisora) was the disgraceful decision.
     
  11. Bigcheese

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    Will Wilder get any credit if he ices Parker? Or will people say he was washed up/never that good to begin?
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, if Wilder is a protected bum with a china chin who only beat a guy with a heart condition, Joseph Parker should win easily by KO.

    If Parker doesn't KO Wilder easily, Joe will certainly have some explaining to do. :eatingburger


    And so will you.;)
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    What do you think? :hang

    (We all know the answer to that one.)
     
  14. KINGWILDER

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    I’ve seen the fight several times and it was a complete robbery, as most observers agreed. Using it in your argument is pointless. Helenius is the same guy who got sparked by Washington, he wouldn’t stand a chance against Parker or anyone in the top 10.

    Where did I say it wasn’t? Parker vs Chisora 1 had nothing to do with the Helenius fight but imo was far less disgraceful than the Helenius fight. Helenius was never any good and Chisora achieved more in his career.

    Either way none of this means much, Wilder will beat Parker imo and do in spectacular fashion. His power never fails to disappoint.
     
  15. Dubblechin

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    For what it's worth, Joseph Parker is the lowest-rated contender (according to the four sanctioning bodies) Deontay Wilder has faced since he fought Gerald Washington back in 2017.

    Stiverne was rated #1 by the WBC for their rematch. Ortiz was rated #3 by the WBC the first time. Fury was rated #3 by the WBC the first time. Breazeale was rated #2 by the WBC. Ortiz was rated #3 by the WBC again when they rematched. Fury was rated #1 when they rematched. Fury was the WBC/Ring champion when they fought a third time. And Helenius was the WBA #2 contender.

    The highest rating Joseph Parker has at the moment is #4 by the IBF. Parker is rated #8 by the WBC. #6 by the WBO. Not rated at all by the WBA.