Golovkin vs Mike McCallum

It really shouldn’t be this difficult should it?


Mike was more skilled.

More experienced.

More tested.

He fought and beat much better opponents.

He has better wins.


There’s nothing in GGG’s favour, including how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.


Mike was just better, where he would have been the clear favourite.

 

Yeah Toney contrived to look crap against guys that Golovkin would have wiped out.

 

Actually I posted an in depth dissection of how they compare stylistically which you studiously avoided.

 

Golovkin was more consistent against lower level guys and was never out of shape like Toney, but on the flip side Toney had many more stand out wins against bigger names like Nunn, McCallum, Jirov. And it's highly debatable that Golovkin could beat the likes of Nunn or McCallum we all know he wouldn't beat Jirov at Cruiserweight.

 

Actually, your first paragraph said that Mike would have been smashed up by GGG.

You then waffled on about how GGG would have been the most powerful puncher that Mike had faced, before then saying that we couldn’t include Julian Jackson due to his technique.

The rest was just fantasy nonsense, which again included ZERO context.

All of your posts have been poor.

Nobody is going to take that post seriously and offer a serious rebuttal, when you’re hyping GGG’s stats, and trying to denigrate the resumes of technicians like Sumbu Kalambay.

If you think that GGG would have smashed Mike up, then that’s fine. That’s your prerogative. But don’t expect anybody to respect your opinion, when it carries no weight whatsoever, as it isn’t based on anything even remotely realistic.


Once again:

1. Mike had more overall ability.

2. He fought and beat better fighters than what GGG did.

3. He faced a bigger variety of styles.

4. He was more experienced.

5. He was more proven.


Now none of your fantasy waffle is going to change what’s written above.

 

GGG had far more power and hasn`t been rocked the way McCallum has, Mike being rocked by Jackson doesn`t count because Jackson was one of the hardest punchers of all-time but there`s no way a welter moving up to 154 could rock GGG and Curry wouldn`t have hurt GGG at 160 either he would have been destroyed, GGG looked more solid at 160 than McCallum who`s KO ratio at 160 was poor.

 

Correct. You are able to read.

Correct. Middleweight Golovkin not only punches harder than welterweight JJ but also punches better.

uh-oh here we come to the hyperbole and conjecture part

It's my opinion that your posts have not been poor, but outright destitute. Like, living-under-a-bridge, "oi mate spare us a tuppence" level of deprived.

Oh dear I sense a panties sucked up the crack moment in the offing.

lol

Oh dear, I hope he isn't going to repeat himself. That would be disastrous, how could I ever deal with that?

No

No

No

Debatable

LOL no.

It certainly is true that I am not a mod and am unable to delete your post. Your wafflings will remain carved in stone and likewise, your studious avoidance of my technical analysis will also remain for the world to see.

 

Jackson was the hardest hitting light middle of all-time and sparked several middles with one shot, he had more one punch KO`s at middleweight than any other middleweight during the 90`s and he sparked Herol Graham with one shot something GGG has rarely done, GGG didn`t really have one punch power.

 

I usually stay away from these hypothetical matchups. Two of my favorite fighters, I can’t decide who to choose and keep going back and forth.

I miss watching prime GGG and miss watching the Body-Snatcher fight. MM fight in a tougher and way more entertaining era for sure. Two great champions.

 

For some reason I read welterweight on Wiki. Light middle is not middle, but is certainly better for MM's case than welterweight.

Also, GGG absolutely has 1 punch power:

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He's tho only guy to ever KO Ishida and Ishida fought as high as heavyweight.

Macklin stopped by a 1 shot body punch

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Mccallum was everything that would trouble Golovkin and that we've ultimately seen actually trouble him:

Defensively responsible
Good power
Crazy reach and jab
Iron chin
Great footwork
Stamina
And finally...........despite the fact Golovkin has a monster chin, where have we seen him hurt? We've all seen him susceptible to the body.

Mike Mccallum only lost twice in his prime, and both times were to two of the most skilled boxers of the last 40 years, and those fights were duels. Golovkin ain't outboxing him, and he ain't stopping him.

Mccallum UD12

 

Twice? He only lost to Kalambay in his prime (a real bad loss though). His 2nd loss came to Prime Toney at age 35, which was a very close, technical fight again. All above jr middleweight.

 

Depends on what you consider prime. Some people say nothing at MW was prime ( because he was undefeated at JMW and the Kalambay fight was at MW). I consider the loss to Toney as the end of his prime. At MW I think he still did a lot of good work. After the Toney loss is when he pretty much leapfrogged right to LHW

 

Yes, GGG has more power than what GGG had.


It doesn't matter if Mike's knockout ratio was poor.

Mike McCallum was a technician.


How did Mike not look solid at 160?

He beat prime versions of Kalambay, Graham and Watson.

He beat Collins.

He came within a whisker of beating a prime James Toney at 160.


GGG barely beat Derev and Jacobs.

GGG fought lesser fighters than what Mike did.

 

Remember that there was some confusion about his real age, much like there was for Rigo's. In any case, he wasn't very fast but a technician to boot. That sort of style has a long life in the ring.