I think Parker is going to expose/dismantle everything Wilder is, a pure business protected hypejob.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Haviton, Dec 5, 2023.


Final poll - who wins this

  1. Parker decision

    14 vote(s)
    10.4%
  2. Parker KO

    17 vote(s)
    12.7%
  3. Wilder KO

    100 vote(s)
    74.6%
  4. Wilder decision

    3 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    All things in context.

    Yes, he hits really hard.

    At the same time, when you're fighting a lot of B, C and D grade fighters it's easier to connect with your biggest punches and maximum power...
    Or in other words, you can get away with loading up excessively and overcommitting to punches - which means you're hitting closer to your theoretical (punch machine etc) maximum power than dudes who have more serious opponents to keep them honest.
     
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  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I'd say Ortiz is of note as much as I believe him to be overated

    Legit contender and undefeated at the time
     
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  3. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    This ain't gonna age well lol
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    The legit bit is debatable, but he was relevant as a hyped up "avoided" fighter just as Wilder himself was.
     
  5. bangalangin

    bangalangin New Member Full Member

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    Parker has never displayed any aggressive traits when up against good fighters, he’s not exposing anything except his chin to get KOd surely.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Usyk and Ruiz have the same level of speed in their hands, Parker can`t slip shots, he`s always been easy to hit.
     
  7. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Parker`s lack of KO power has hurt him in his biggest fights, he needs to get Wilder out early before one of those right hands catch him.
     
  8. GGGunbeatableGGG

    GGGunbeatableGGG Active Member Full Member

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    talking about parker in his early 20s lol usyk does not have that speed ruiz might of a few years back.
     
  9. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    He gets in and out combining foot and hand speed better than Parker in his 20`s or Ruiz.
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Parker hand speed was amazing, but he ruined it. Prolly bad training methods, bulking the wrong way, etc, etc.

    But you can't compare Usyk in the HW with Parker. That was what 35+ years old Usyk. I don't care what anyone say he was clearly declined in terms of physical attributes.
    But the thing is, while Usyk is not as fast as Parker with his hands, he doesn't have problem landing on AJ, which is something Parker could barely do.
    Look what Usyk jab did to AJ, and look how AJ easily blocked Parker jab, and was easily getting out of range of Parker shot. AJ looked like a defensive beast in the Parker fight. Can you say the same in the Usyk fight for AJ ?
    And Parker is now what?
    Ruiz was insanely fast but i also think he ruined it with his abusive methods. He clearly had declined big time after AJ 1. Hell he never look even as half as good as he looked in AJ 2.

    My main problem with Parker in this Wilder fight is, Parker always manage to **** in the big fights. Also Parker is not very hard to hit. He is just not moving from the center line. His body movement is just not good enough. He is trying to have some head movement, but he ain't moving from the center.
    Parker is also very reckless at times. He land anything and jump on you, but he is jumping from the center line, and that makes him very open to counters, so Wilder can very well KO him with the same or similar shot he KO Helenius.
    Impact is way greater when you going forward, and eat a huge counter. And let's not forget that Joyce KO Parker very badly, so he may as well crack his chin.

    Anyway this is going to be the best Win resume wise for both fighters, so whoever won should be praised.
     
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  11. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's an intriguing fight but I expect Wilder to KO Parker.
     
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  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Have to disagree, I have said loads of times Ortiz was manufactured as a Wilder opponent but he is skillfull and a solid pro
     
  13. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    I don’t dispute that, but my original comment still stands.

    He’s not knocked anyone out of note. Ancient Ortiz? Annnnnnnd Helenius?

    **** house Whyte or grandpa Povetkin would have smoked both of them too.

    I rest my case.
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte fought Helenius.
     
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  15. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Ortiz was far more skilled than Whyte.