What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

In what way, other than hitting hard, does GGG present stylisitc challenges to Floyd?

 

GGG is/was an elite level, power punching MW.

Floyd was already past his best at WW-JMW, where he had zero power.

GGG would have pursued him aggressively and put him into survival mode.

What do you think an elite level, huge power punching MW would do against a 5’8 former SFW-WW, who had zero power?

GGG would have walked him down and roughed him up on the inside. He wouldn’t have engaged him in a chess match. He’d have relentlessly pursued him aggressively with power punches.

Floyd would have had a severely limited offense, as he’d have been in defensive positions all night, looking to have not gotten hurt.

Go and watch Floyd’s fight with Maidana.

Go and watch GGG’s fight with WW Brook, who was very offensive.

Floyd would have been backed up from the outset.

It’s not about how great they were and where you think they rank. It’s how they’d have matched up stylistically on the night.

Floyd was an absolute genius. But he wasn’t beating an elite level MW. Everybody has a ceiling. Everybody has a stylistic nemesis.

Floyd is by far the greater fighter, but it’s completely unrealistic to believe that he’d have beaten him H2H.

He had absolutely nothing to deter him.

 

Getting clean countered is a deterrent to a professional like GGG, though. It doesn't matter if the punches hurt or not. You think Floyd was hurting Canelo? No. But he didn't run in and back Floyd up. Pac certainly didn't fancy getting hit with Floyd's pillow gloves, either. Nor did DLH.

I think there's lots of guys that fought at 154 that would trouble Floyd more.

I also think Floyd at 154 can be a lot better than Kell Brook at 160, fight a much smarter fight, and survive until the end.

 

ya ya...Ward ducked GGG. Sure I believe that. Signed up to fight an actual killer bigger than him but ducked GGG one class down. Right.

 

I'm not being silly. I've just never been sold on the Golovkin hype train. Roy Jones saw right through him:

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You're completely missing the psychology side of the things. Golovkin was fine with opening up on Monroe, Wade, etc not simply because they were smaller and lacked power. It was because they were scared, didn't know how to really fight cautiously without simply cowering (there's a huge difference), weren't exactly elite to begin with, and Golovkin was a bully who only acts aggressive and macho when he has nothing to worry about.

David Lemiuex, one of his first big tests, hyped up as a potential slug-fest between two big punchers. Ggg goes in there mashing jabs all day. Was it the "wrong" approach? Of course not, you play to your strengths and do what you need to do to win. But it told me a lot about Golovkin along with the 2nd Canelo fight.

Like I said, Floyd is even faster, smarter, and more skilled than people who troubled GGG with their movement and defense such as Jacobs, Segiy, and the 1st Canelo fight. He has trouble cutting off the ring, fights at a pedestrian pace, and lacks variety. I can see it from my TV and I'm just an amateur who never won anything significant in boxing, so i know for damn sure a pro, veteran boxing wizard like Floyd would not only see the same flaws, but several other ones i didn't notice. And more importantly: he has the tools to exploit those flaws.

So yes, I do think Floyd could get GGG to hesitate and not just go balls to the wall crazy on offense with no regard for what was being thrown at him. And for the record, iron chinned Mosley admitted he couldn't walk through Floyd's punches. He can sting and get your attention if not with 1, then with a combination or an accumulation of damage. If GGG gets discouraged he might not get out of 1st gear and will be content to just play chess with Floyd not pressing the issue to avoid the embarrassment of getting outboxed and made to look silly missing by several inches.

 

Wasn’t it his pinky toe lol

 

Floyd would have a defense designed especially for GGG. He would have frustrated and potshoted him all night long. He would have quite simply out boxed GGG. The best thing about Floyd is that he can keep his game tight all night long. I have never seen him tire out.

 

Floyd could have actually had the fight at 154 but declined it.

 

Designed for 3G?? Floyd's defense is his defense. He wouldn't be changing anything up because he fights how he fights. Floyd would have NOTHING to slow 3G down. And potshotting someone as skilled as 3G is, especially cutting off the ring, would not work.

 

When was Ward v 3G able to be made? When Ward returned from a layoff, it was at LtHW. He stated he could not make 168 anymore.

 

GGG was good at cutting off the ring against middleweights. It wouldn't be as easy against Floyd. If Floyd wants to survive this fight, he would.

If he tried to actually win, that's another thing altogether. He would be exposing himself to far more danger and would need to fight the perfect fight.

I still don't see him taking as much punishment as Kell Brook, who was basically asking to get violently knocked out and still lasted six rounds.

People are acting as if GGG is going to just breathe on Floyd and KO him. It's not that simple.

 

Brook was styling on Golovkin for the first few rounds.

 

He could also have survived if he'd stayed disciplined. Everything was on point except for his defense.

 

He's good at cutting the ring period. And Floyd was Not the same mover he was at 147, or 154, as he was in his lower weights. Everyone knows that.

Floyd would probably take less damage then Brook.

But no one is acting like that. But that's how you took it. 3G would simply be the biggest guy he's fought, and easily the hardest hitter. He's also incredibly skilled. 3G would be something Floyd has never fought against. And as you once said, Floyd isn't even a JrMW.