I think Parker is going to expose/dismantle everything Wilder is, a pure business protected hypejob.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Haviton, Dec 5, 2023.


Final poll - who wins this

  1. Parker decision

    14 vote(s)
    10.4%
  2. Parker KO

    17 vote(s)
    12.7%
  3. Wilder KO

    100 vote(s)
    74.6%
  4. Wilder decision

    3 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder has been dominant against subpar opposition while Parker has struggled a great deal.
     
  2. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry that is too many caveats all going one way. Ruiz would have done the same or worse. Ortiz would have not done the same, he would of fought better.

    The fight was the fight and Ortiz clearly lost.

    This wasn't Fury v Wilder 1 or even Ortiz v Wilder 2. Nothing really controversial happened in the officiating. Two of the cards had it 6 rounds a piece. I also scored it that way. The fairest I can say to your position is the second KD was fortuitous. But even in this hypothetical world where we change the 10-8 and 10-7 to a 10-9 each time, that's a majority draw. From what I can tell, there was no controversy in that UD.

    End of the day, Ortiz lost, he didn't embarrass himself, but there was a clear winner. Let's not rewrite history to fit a preferred narrative. We can have our opinions, and our disagreements, that's fine. We clearly disagree on this one.
     
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  3. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Two weeks till we find out just how determined

    these two men are
     
  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Up to a point... Parker's been dominant against subpar opponents like Massey (clear UD), knocked out Kean early rounds.

    At the same time, in the last 2-ish years he's fought Chisora twice (who's a hard nights work for anyone - and better than everyone Wilder's beaten except for probably Ortiz).
    Yes, he lost to Joyce, but then Joyce is better than anyone Wilder's beaten - he was overhyped, but he's a solid top ten fighter.


    In terms of recent fights, Parker's been more active and even when beaten hasn't been completely dominated - which Wilder was against Fury (albeit Fury seems to be better than anyone Parker's been fighting)...

    In terms of potential decline and knowing where each fighter is, Parker's still clearly top ten whilst Wilder's not been active enough to say whether he still is or not - that's the point I was making.
     
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  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Ruiz went down in that 12th round it could have easily been a draw. He was hurt badly a few times in the last round and in no way in control.
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But you won´t put any money on it, I´m sure.

    A guy that loses to Joe Joyce... can´t beat anyone else. I hate to say this.
     
  7. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, that would have been a Majority Decision for Ruiz instead of the Unanimous Decision that we got. Ortiz needed three knock downs in the final round to get a Majority Draw. So, as I said, he needed a KO to win.
     
  8. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parker is quite durable. Of course wilder can switch of parkers light, but probably later than earlier, but paker could ko wilder. You don't need to be a big puncher to hurt wilder. Parker is still quite fast for a heavyweight and definitely the better boxer. All in all it's a interesting match up.

    Joshua will brutally destroy Wallin and usyk will school fury like a kindergarten kindergartener and imo joshua still beats wilder and fury with ease
     
  9. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ruiz didn't know Ortiz needed 3 knock downs though so he certainly wasn't in control. One knock down would have made it a draw on my card.
     
  10. Haviton

    Haviton Member banned Full Member

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    No, Joshua fought Helenius, not the other way, because he saw how weak he is, same as Wilders team. They cherry picked a glass jaw non-contender, why didn they fight Zhang or Joyce?

    The rest makes no sense, but whatever
     
  11. Haviton

    Haviton Member banned Full Member

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    Then why did he fought belowe average competition instead of Parker (when both were chamops), Joshua (when both were chamops), Ruiz, Hrgovic, Zhang, Joyce?
     
  12. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    OMG! Fury is far better defensively than AJ.
     
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  13. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im sorry this post makes no sense to me what was your point?
     
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  14. UFC2020

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    Wilders ability to take a punch or combinations is untested since the Fury wars. It remains to be seen if he has improved defensively, technically, strategically in the last 2 years working with Malik Scott.
     
  15. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Disgrace that AJ Wallin is the main fight

    Wilder deserves it especially given that big bodybuilding bum stunk out Saudi TWICE getting slapped around by a midget trying to outbox a master boxer.

    No doubt Parker Wilder is the highlight fight then AJ stinks the joint out again barely managing to KO Wallin late after boxing poorly as usual.