Tyson v Tyson: An uncomfortable truth

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  1. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what utter tosh and unsubstantiated twaddle!

    who’s Fury fought?
    Nobody that’s who

    Mike Tyson destroys him inside 4 rounds
     
  2. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ahh who had his timing accuracy and speed combined with that peek a boo style. His head movement. His body head combos. **** his power was pretty darn good as well…..
     
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  3. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Preach !
     
  4. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wait. Who trained him again?
    Oh yeah
    MIKE MOTHER****ING TYSON
    /end.sillyased.thread
     
  5. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    "Everyone has a plan in till 270 pounds of gypsy mantits crushes you" - Mike Tyson
     
  6. stahlker

    stahlker New Member banned Full Member

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    it was, against cab drivers he lost all his top fights and his best win is berbick lol
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Surprising ? yes i would think it would be the Heavyweight champion being dropped and winning a controversial decision to an MMA fighter making his pro debut. If this was any other past Heavyweight with the same circumstances you would be bringing it up to discredit them, but because it's Fury who's a "modern Heavyweight" it's just "surprising".

    No mate it's not surprising it's an outright embarrassment and the biggest embarrassment in boxing history.

    Again you say this all the time and yet how exactly is the general standard gone up ? most of Heavyweights are in their late 30s early 40s and are inactive.

    How are fighters like Ruiz, Hrgovic, Chisora, Whyte, Ortiz, Zhang, Joyce, better than some of the notable Heavyweights of the past ?

    Even the top guys like Wilder, Fury, have looked very beatable despite a paper thin resume.

    You base alot of arguments on size but that's not how it works, you rate a fighter on their resume also and how they stylistically match up with other Heavyweights.

    Usyk is the size of 70s/80s Heavyweight yet he's able to thrive in this current era based on his skills, he doesn't have power to bail him out vs bigger guys which basically discredits all this nonsense about size.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You want me to school you on Mike Tyson ? ok i'll give you a genuine reply.

    Mike Tyson

    12 world title wins with 10 KO's

    10 wins against top 10 ranked opponents how many does Fury have ? yeah exactly.

    Youngest Heavyweight champion in history.

    Cleaned up Heavyweight division in just a few years.


    Best Wins

    Razor Ruddock x2
    Michael Spinks
    Larry Holmes
    Frank Bruno x2
    Carl Williams
    Pinklon Thomas
    Tony Tucker
    Trevor Berbick

    Was the only fighter to stop two ATG's in Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, who had over 100 fights between them and 39 championship fights.
     
  9. stahlker

    stahlker New Member banned Full Member

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    cab drivers, you should change your name in " ? "
     
  10. stahlker

    stahlker New Member banned Full Member

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    ur mad lmao
     
  11. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    Hello young un.
    There's an intangible you left out.
    Mike Tyson had unusually fast hands and fast feet and was EXCEPTIONAL at closing distance.
    He'd touch Fury and touch him often.
    There isn't much difference in height between Ribalta or Tucker or Fury (who's not 6.9)
    I could see a Carl Williams type of Tyson KO.
    And I'm no Tyson fan.
     
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  12. VOXDEI

    VOXDEI Heavyweight only weight Full Member

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    Weird that you get to decide what I do and do not find surprising.

    Increasing size is indicative of selection processes occurring, implying that intangible and difficult to measure qualities have likely also increased.

    Irrelevant question begging, not an argument.

    Irrelevant when comparing cross era H2H. You always do this, a fighter can be a legend in his own time, I'm not saying he ain't.

    Again size is indicative, not the be all and end all necessarily.

    It doesn't.
     
  13. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This post fails to consider the fact Mike Tyson was a genetic freak and a once in a generation athlete. The athletes today competing in boxing are objectively far worse, with more and more choosing other sports such as basketball over boxing. I picked Fury to win a decision but I simply cannot see him stopping him let alone destroying him. Beating an ageing Klitschko and a dangerous but limited Wilder does not make you unbeatable.
     
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  14. VOXDEI

    VOXDEI Heavyweight only weight Full Member

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    It's true, prime Fury is far from unbeatable I just think he'd wreck Mike.

    There are plenty of 90s fighters who'd give Fury a far tougher test, like Buster Douglas!
     
  15. AdamT

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    LOL at anyone thinking any of these current guys beats an 80s Tyson
     
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