What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    People said the same thing about canelo and how did that turn out??? Pbf even at 38 could've outboxed ggg to a decision. Ggg is too slow of both hand and foot to trouble even a faded pbf the difference in speed and reflexes would be too much. Not only that pbf holds a reach advantage over ggg something people like to overlook. Especially against a guy who knows how to control range and dictate distance like pbf can. There's nothing in gggs arsenal that troubles pbf which is why he called him straight up and down with no special effects. He has size that's it, if both were the same size the fight wouldn't even be worth talking about as pbf is a stylistic nightmare for ggg.
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    :facepalm:
     
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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This thread is insanity
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    No.

    Be objective.

    He took the step asides, because at the time, he obviously thought that there would be an undisputed fight with Canelo at the end of it.

    Don’t criticise GGG for taking step aside money.

    Criticise Oscar for waiting him out as much as possible.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Canelo was not the same fighter as GGG.

    Canelo is a counterpuncher.

    He was young and naive.

    He stood off of Floyd.

    GGG would not have done that.

    It doesn’t matter if GGG is slow in comparison to Floyd. With that logic, Floyd could have beaten all of the MW’s and SMW’s, as he was faster and more skilled. But you know that it’s not as simple as that.

    It’s styles.

    It’s how the 2 fighters approach the fight.

    You know this.

    Canelo is twice the fighter that Maidana was. Yet Maidana caused Floyd issues, whereas Canelo was easy.

    Styles.

    Canelo didn’t close him down and throw power punches. He did not pursue him aggressively.

    Floyd was super confident as he could dictate the pace.

    So I’ll ask you again:

    How confident, aggressive and offensive minded would Floyd have been, against a power punching, pressure fighting MW who possessed huge power?

    Floyd would not have been confident.

    GGG would not have respected Floyd and boxed with him.

    You saw Brook bounce combinations off of him, and he was stalked and stopped.

    Again, common sense and logic tell you that even if GGG couldn’t have caught him and knocked him out, he’d have pursued Floyd and shut down his offence by putting him on the back foot into survival mode.

    You saw Maidana limit his time and his space by trying to rough him up on the inside.

    GGG didn’t have to be as skilled, as fast or as fleet footed at Floyd. Because he’d have had the strength and the power to have backed him up, and the chin to have just walked through whatever Floyd threw at him.

    This is very similar to the Floyd-Iran Barkley thread.

    Floyd was on another planet to Barkley in terms of skills, speed, achievements and historical ranking.

    They were world’s apart. But big, strong aggressive MW’s would have taken Floyd out of his comfort zone and made him extremely cautious.

    You need to get back to reality.

    He only had just 3 fights above WW in his entire career.

    It’s utterly delusional for you to believe that Golovkin couldn’t even have troubled him.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Maidana and ggg fight nothing alike maidana is an awkward rough housing slugger who throws punches from unpredictable angles. Ggg is a pressure fighter/boxer puncher who fights clean and throws punches from predictable angles which pbf can anticipate and see coming slip or counter with ease. Pbfs whole defense is set up to shut guys like ggg down. He loves facing slow footed slow handed traditional boxers like ggg because at the and of the day he knows he can easily outbox them at will.

    I've seen nothing of ggg that shows he's on pbfs level, he went life and death with canelo a guy pbf schooled. Also ggg is more of an accumulation puncher wheh his level of comp went up those kos suddenly went away., go figure. If you think a slow footed guy like ggg is going to track pbf down enough to score points and win more rounds than pbf wins you're high. Pbf will lower gggs workrate hes not there to be hit, he catches his slow ass coming in over and over and will be gone. Ggg would be one of the slowest fighters he fought in years, you seem to think that won't make a difference. He will take gggs jab away then what? Pbf has beaten better boxers than ggg but the same can't be said for ggg. Of course pbf isn't beating 168 pound fighters or higher they dwarf him in the ring. Ggg is bigger but he has short arms, he wouldn't dwarf pbf in the ring like someone like froch would do. At the end of the day you can pick ggg in this match up and I'll pick pbf the better and more proven fighter who always losses fantasy fights but wins real ones. Pbf is an elite atg the best of his era whereas ggg is merely hof level.
     
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  7. steviebruno

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    If Loma wants a rematch, let him come up to 140 and try. Seems he would rather just sit around and do nothing, though.
     
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  8. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Would Golovkin have fought Floyd if he was actually a 168lb fighter?
    :elboinas:
     
  9. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will stay at 135 and collect all of his belts Haney left him, starting with the IBF vs Kambosos.
     
  10. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Unreasonable post.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    GGG wouldn't just break Floyd's brittle little chicken bones like twigglets and fill his beady little pigeon eyes with that same look of dread and terror that we all saw when crude caveman Maidana, Chop Chop, a PED free Shane, and Manny did when they cracked him on his chin, only GGG would do that with half power jabs, he would outbox Floyd's ass too

    Yeah, you read that right. Read it again if it didn't register the first time or jut keep reading because I'll say it again

    GGG will outbox Floyd's skinny little chicken ass

    Even if Floyd does hold the edge in that department it sure as hell ain't a large enough one for it to prevent GGG from landing his fair share of shots and as utterly delusional as his fans are, and as desperately as they want and need to believe that he can, as said, there's no goddamn way in hell he is taking GGG's power with that skinny weak schoolboy frame of his.

    Even the shots GGG lands on his arms and gloves will shake Floyd down to his little size six pink booties and make him cry

    Floyd never faced anyone from the Soviet school as a pro and if we've learned anything in recent years is that the Soviet school causes the US school all manner of problems despite the fact the US school is always fighting on a deck heavily stacked in their favour in the US with a home ref and three home judges.

    How do you think this battle of schools would play out if the battleground was always over in Eastern Europe or Central Asia with a full set of EE or Central Asian refs and judges all the time? Yeah, you already know because it's painfully obvious

    The only way the US school can even compete with the Soviet school these days is via having that heavily stacked deck in their favour all the time and their corrupt judges robbing the Soviet school time and time and time again

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it because Serge is on a rampage and he's left a pile of dead bodies 100ft high and wide in his wake :deal:
     
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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd outclassed Canelo who beat Lil G every time they fought. Levels to this game.
     
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  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I don’t buy this stuff about the Soviet school but if I were to indulge this line of think then what I do is simply point out is that Floyd is Summa Cum Laude from the the best boxing school in the world that is the mid-west USA where the best boxers the world has seen originate. Floyd may be the best from the great state of Michigan. Old school beats Soviet School. Remember Rocky Balboa trained and taught by Apollo Creed defeated Ivan Drago as did Creed the son trained by Rocky in Philadelphia the City of brotherly love beat Drago’s son. Floyd is to good for Lil g who could not , would not and can never beat Canelo. Now brother Serge I know people love our debates due to our knowledge and expertise so much so that I really think we should debate this at the Oxford University Union, you and @CST80 making the case for Golovkin and myself and @Pimp C making the case for Floyd. If you are for it I will call the President of the Oxford Union and no doubt we can be in the calendar for next year.
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Also, let us not forget, Steve Rolls in almost everyone's eyes including mine, did more than enough to beat both Berlanga and Ammo Williams, and was robbed blind against both of them. Even the DAZN commentators who are a little less intellectually dishonest than the ESPN crew were vocally worried that Williams was going to lose.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    Ward refused the fight when he had a chance
     
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