Are you okay Olu? You seem to be hallucinating, because I haven't said a goddamn word on this thread, which I just read through and commented on, after you rang by bell. So, it's nice of you putting words in my mouth. Look, I know that @Serge and I are usually in agreement, but we aren't a two headed hydra, we do think independently from one another. Although, what's more than often the case, @Serge is spot ****ing on again and I wholeheartedly concur with everything he's said on this thread thus far. He and the rest of the people picking GGG are right, and the rest of you are profoundly mentally ill.
Of all the things I find perplexing on Boxing Forums and there are many, especially from all of the supposed sweet science Mayweather fanboys, its this highly inaccurate perception that bothers me the most. That somehow fighters from Eastern Europe are all lead footed lumbering Frankenstein's Monsters who plod headlong into the fists of far more capable highly skilled fighters and their only saving grace is their immense power that they overwhelm their opponent with usually leading to the inevitable stoppage, which is frequently used to discredit them, because after all, "they didn't outbox anybody, they relied on their power." Ironically, this is the case with the Charlo sisters, Davis and even Crawford lately, yet conveniently, no one seems to notice. Back to GGG, that perception couldn't be further from the truth, the reality is many of the fighters from Eastern Europe are some of the most skilled high caliber fighters to grace the squared circle in recent memory. There's a fallacy that many people seem to believe, its that only defensively minded fighters are somehow the true sweet scientists of the sport, and that hit and not get hit is of the utmost importance. But that's simply not the case, offensively minded fighters can be every bit as skilled as the hit and not get hit crowd, it's only their detractors that don't seem to recognize these qualities in aggressive destroyer type fighters. Well that makes me wonder how deep their understanding of the sweet science really goes. It's a common occurrence with many fans, they either can't see or refuse to acknowledge the proof that should be very apparent to them if they would just open their eyes and be willing to look. Many come forward fighters have been decried over the years for their perceived lack of skills like Inoue, Pacquiao, Morales, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Calzaghe, Froch, Mike Tyson you get the idea. Seemingly missing their footwork, use of the jab, ability to slip punches in close by bobbing, weaving, blocking and parrying, counters, combinations, accuracy, stance, balance, control of range and distance. All that **** they've got down to a science... a sweet science. They only do it coming forward, which is in some ways, far more difficult to accomplish than it is constantly retreating. And guess what? Gennady Golovkin has an overabundance of those skills and is an elite level fighter of the highest order and only someone who doesn't comprehend the sweet science as good as they think they can, can't see this. Here let me explain it to you. Skill wise as an offensive fighter he's more well rounded and complex than most so-called defensive geniuses. Just like many proclaim that fans miss the subtleties of great defensive fighters and therefore "DKSAB" well the same argument can apply to them. Gennady's defense is top tier, his slight subtle head movements just enough to roll with punches or slip them in close, his blocking, his parrying all usually while coming forward is similar to Chocolatito and Toney, add in his just stepping out of range when his opponents shots are coming in, the reality is it's a hell of a lot harder to hit GGG clean that most seem to think it is. Why? Because he controls range just as well as Mayweather, with the added power as a ferocious deterrent. Canelo even against the old GGG in their third fight, wasn't willing to take many risks. His footwork is as close to brilliant as you can get, he never chases or follows, he's constantly moving laterally with them when his opponent are trying to run, stepping right in their way never allowing them to find an escape route, always staring right into his opponents eyes to further intimidate and discombobulate them, while applying immense pressure and when they go to the right he goes to the right and vice versa they eventually they start feeling like a rat in a cage and feel trapped and become paranoid and confused so they make mistakes that he capitalizes on almost immediately, eventually he gets them right where he wants them, which is either in the corner or along the ropes where he usually ends up stopping them. And I hate to break to all of the people who think slick fighters gave him issues, because he's feasted on them with the greatest of ease, so no.... even Mayweather would not be able to get away from GGG, his footwork is that amazing. He is the definition of an effective aggressor. GGG is also a very skilled counter puncher he easily parries his opponents jab with right hand while shooting out his own counter left jab connecting with them as they come in, while they miss him entirely and therefore enhancing the impact of his counter sometimes with devastating effects, also with his left he blocks their rights and shoots out his counter uppercuts and he does this repeatedly and many fans seem to miss this sly technique, and for some reason think he's easy to hit, maybe it's their eyes that are deceiving them. He's amazing at setting these traps and often his opponents seem to never catch on either. Then also he's brilliant at the art of shifting which is essentially gaining power by transferring weight on his feet, while moving in and out at the same time as he's throwing a punch, basically it's the ability to sit down on your punches while in close or while inside fighting therefore maximizing the impact of the punch, which he's great at. Think about that, he never has to set his feet to get his punches off. Which like Maidana and Castillo, only far more effective, would make him a nightmare opponent for Featherfisted Floyd. Then add to this his amazing accuracy, and his incredibly educated brutal stiff jab which he utilizes with great effectiveness which he uses to set up his even more brutal power punches, his brilliant punch placement, innovative use of angles and punch selection and his general mastery of most types of punches, his brutal twisting knuckle punch hooks to the ribs are horrifying. That Philly shell will not protect Floyd from one of GGG's looping over the top hammerfist bolo punch to top of the head. He's already decoded that without even facing him. Then there are the other intangibles like his cast iron chin which is a great asset to possess in spite of the fact he doesn't rely on it as much as people think, since opponents so rarely land flush on him. And of course his most valuable asset which is his immense power which opponents no matter their skill level they can never seem to smother, slip or block enough to fully get away from, his shots always get through their guards of course they're being set up by his tapping decoy hooks and jabs up top of to the body allowing him ease of access to their head and chin when they reflexively try to protect the exposed areas opening the intended target up for a flush shot that does maximum damage. In many ways GGG is a terrorist in the ring, his presence, his pressure, his eye contact, his power and his reputation all terrify opponents and often times they've lost the match before they've ever set foot in the ring, because they feel as though they are going on a suicide mission with their chances at victory being near futile. Also the little fact that his instincts and intellect are top notch, he's far more intelligent than many of you all seem to think he is. His ring generalship is immaculate and only truly brilliant fighters can control range and distance with the absolute ease with which GGG does. He is as complete a fighter as you could possibly find in terms of an offense/defense combination and to the people on this site and many others who seem to think that Mayweather, Crawford, Lara so on and so forth would box his ears off, well I'm sorry to inform you, but you might be insane or at the very least you don't know **** about boxing, because they do not stand even a slightest of chances against him, he's far more skilled than any of them on every level, no matter what the fanboys may want to believe or try to convince themselves of, it's not a reality it's only in their dreams. He beat Canelo twice and got robbed twice, once on the front foot, fighting Canelo's fight and the second time on the back foot fighting more like Floyd. Now this was against a far more seasoned clen fueled combination punching beast Canelo with a far better motor, not even remotely as drained as green ass Drainelo. He struggled against Derevyanchenko, because it was like fighting a mirror image. Then there was Jacobs, who was massive, and constantly switching stances, also a pretty heavy handed knockout artist himself. Regardless, their styles aren't remotely similar to Floyd's, and he beat both of the far more convincingly than Floyd beat Castillo and as convincingly as Floyd beat Maidana and De La Hoya. Floyd doesn't have the power to dissuade GGG, even at 154, it would be a violent hard to watch assault in the ring, Floyd would pull a no mas in 5, if he even makes it that far. If not, he gets violently KO'd in 7. So you all really need to stop smoking what you're smoking, because it's clearly affecting your reason, logic and ability to think clearly. In short, the Floyd backers are delusional. CST Eviscerates! You asked for this Olu.
Hello sir trust you are well. I know you and brother Serge are of independent thinking though your views tend to converge as do my brother the legendary Pimp C. If you guys are up to the challenge let’s debate it academically at the Oxford University Union. Are you up for it? We are right and you are wrong and more importantly God is on our side. There is only One God and he loves Floyd Mayweather as shown by his records and skills. As the saying goes “God made nobody or nothing perfect except for Floyd’s boxing record”. As for me as the saying goes “If nobody is perfect I must be nobody”. Forgive me I get sentimental with age but after a trying year with more challenges ahead I want to wish you @CST80, @Serge, @Pimp C , @ellerbe, even that idiot @MidniteProwler and all the other rascals on here a very happy Xmas and prosperous New Year. Boxing is going back the top and we at Eastsideboxing shall be at the forefront. We may not always agree and disagree passionately but it does not negate my love for you all. From the Right Honourable Lord President of the Council in his official capacity.
Sorry brother CST80 but you did not eviscerate ****. I have my ammunition and evidence on lil g or lowercase g as his detractors like to call. He was good sure in fact he was brilliant when he could feast as a flat track bully but when he stepped up to the more elite levels we saw he could not have his way against Floyd’s grandson Canelo and Jacobs. I am not going to go point by point now rather would save it for the formal debate at the Oxford University Union if you take up the challenge. One exhibit I will just throw at you is the Kell Brook fight and Floyd fought the best and beat the best from 130 pounds - 154 pounds in a picture perfect career. Now you may not like it which i understand.
He will get stopped at 140 pounds and he knows Tank will separate him from his senses at 135 pounds and he can’t beat Shakur.
The ultimate barometer of this is simple: Floyd ****-talked to GGG saying how easily he'd deal with him. Golovkin offered to drop to 154 to feed him his teeth. Floyd fought friggin Berto (lol) and a debut fighter instead. Ergo Floyd did not believe he could really beat GGG, end of story.
No he didn't ggg wanted to fight ward at 164 when he was willing to fight Chavez Jr and froch at 168 a clear duck if there ever was one. Ggg still hides in the bathroom to this day whenever Ward's name is brought up.
Yet after pbf schools ggg at 154 a weight he's never fought at before, you and others here would be full of excuses claim he was drained give pbf no credit and say be needs to fight him at 160 if he wants to be great. We've seen this same old song and dance from pbf haters it happened with canelo it would've happened with ggg as well and pbf knew it. I'm glad he didn't do it and give ggg that payday, because he wouldn't get any credit for it anyway.
Ward says he won’t fight Golovkin at 168 https://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/04/ward-says-wont-fight-golovkin-168/
Ahhh ggg is a lesser fighter than pbf that's what and your buddies fail to realize. Ggg is a basic fighter slow handed slow footed fighter with short arms and not hard to find. Stop making out like he was some special dynamic fighter he's not that guy and proved it with his lackluster resume his best win is Danny ****ing jacobs let that sink in.