There has never been a better time for Parker to upset Wilder

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  1. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Parker likely would have beaten Joyce he had thrown more. Couldn't miss when he actually decided to fight back. It's hard to have any faith in Parker at this point. He's always been capable of much more than what he's shown in the ring, but it's hard to have faith in him at this stage.
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder ducked a stacked CW division in favor of glass chinned D rate heavyweights.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Wilder looked at the cruiserweights in 2008 and 2009 where guys like Guillermo Jones, Firat Arslan and Zsolt Erdei were winning belts, and then he looked at the heavyweight division led by the Klitschko brothers, and said, "I'll try to win a belt at heavyweight" ... just like a punk.

    :hang
     
  4. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your post doesn't make any sense. Wilder debuted in 2008.
     
  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never fought Klitschko though did he?
     
  6. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    I totally agree there has never been a better time to beat Wilder

    Don't blow it, Parker!!
     
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's when he decided whether he was going to be a cruiserweight or a heavyweight. What was loaded about the cruiserweight division when he decided to turn pro?

    And "my post" doesn't make sense? You said he ducked the cruiserweight division. When exactly did he do that?
     
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  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Yes, there's never been a better time for Wilder to be upset again.

    But bet on the bank that Mr Chronic Underachiever Parker will find some way to lose again.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :eek: Will a 31-year-old, active (fourth fight this year) Parker beat the 38-year-old, inactive, "worst" version of Wilder?

    Or will Parker get wiped out by the "worst" version of Wilder?

    Boy, that would be embarrassing.
     
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  10. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes - he was far too passive against Joyce and that would 100% sink him against Wilder.
     
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  11. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Big Joe Joyce showed us how a real heavy deals with Joey twelve feather fists paper belt.

    Wilder stops him whenever he feels like it.
     
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  12. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rarely is it decided on debut. Many fighters debut in a division above what they campaign at when fighting for titles. It's hard to cut weight when you're fighting every 2 weeks like many guys do when they debut.
     
  13. KINGWILDER

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    Despite his inactivity, I think Scott would have improved Wilder and I think he may be even more dangerous now. I have seen significant improvements in his game from the first Ortiz fight. Parker may be the more active guy but I simply don’t think he has enough aggression to beat Wilder.

    Deontay has fought Fury who is several levels above Parker and imo the Ortiz from the first fight was also better and far more dangerous.
     
  14. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parkers Team also got it wrong bringing Parker in far too heavy v Joyce
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He lost against Fury twice, was gifted a draw, and it's debatable whether or not Ortiz was better because he never really fought anyone of note except losing to Wilder.

    Fact remains is that Wilder is still largely untested, which is why this fight is so interesting.