What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SIZE is the f'n equalizer here, that you just don't get. Hell, you even said it your self with the "If they were the same size...". You even know what that means??
     
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  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This whole post is like running head first into brick walls.

    GGG did KD Danny Jacobs whose also a career MW. Danny respected GGGs power and probably had his best career performance in that fight.

    GGG had great fights with Canelo and won the 1st fight fairly clearly and most people felt GGG won the 2nd fight but I thought it was a draw. Nonetheless what do either of the Canelo fights or Jacobs fight have anything to do w a hypothetical GGG Floyd fight?

    Both Canelo and Jacobs lost rounds en mass when they tried to box and move GGG. It was only when Jacobs and Canelo stood and fought GGG that they had success. Floyd is too small for that. He would not be able to do that versus GGG. Hell, Floyd had all he could handle w Maidana and JLC and, while both of them were bigger than Floyd, their size was still not comparable to GGG.

    GGG repeats the round 2 of the Mosley fight several times over before the fight is called.
     
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sure you rate Spence as chinny now too. Fairweather bandwagon fan.

    Embarassment to the sport
     
  4. steviebruno

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    If size is the great equalizer, why are we pretending that GGG would be completely unaffected by moving down to 154?
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Ward terrified of lil g. Stop being silly now.
     
  6. BCS8

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    Ward never took the fight when it was on the table. Facts.
     
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  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No it means the book was out on jacobs at that point. He didn't have the sturdiest chin. Which is why I picked all those fighters over him.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Greeting brother, Olu. Good to see you, squire and friend


    Au contraire, the schools thing is very very real. The Soviet school is not just confined to EE and Central Asia it greatly influenced the mighty Cubano school too and both the Slavic, Eurasian, and Latino Cubano branches of the tree of that Soviet school have long caused the US school big problems. We've seen this in the amateurs for decades and in the pros for many years too.

    I've heard numerous fighters who graduated at the American school openly admit that they find it difficult to fight opponents from the Soviet school because they're not reading from the same textbook as they did in the American school and therefore they do things differently to what they're used too.

    Of course the reverse applies too but even if these representatives of Soviet school enlist the services of American trainers they still have a lot of the Soviet school in them because that's the school they learned how to fight in, studied at for many years and graduated in

    Think Kovalev vs Ward. Ward was supposed to outbox Kovalev but the supposed puncher who couldn't box Kovalev actually outboxed him.

    Loma against against a 20lb heavier six inch longer reach high skill ''next great slickster'' ''The new Floyd'' Haney who is being hailed as the the reincarnation of SRR now despite getting taken to slick school in his own backyard by an old past prime leprechaun half his size.

    The skill disparity between them was vast and Haney's ''best jab in the game'' was immediately neutralized from the outset by Loma even though he had a way longer reach than him and the size difference between them was obscene. Haney was reduced to only really being able to land to the body all night and he was crying to his daddy in between rounds that ''he sees everything I'm doing''

    The only reason the fight was competitive was because of the obscene size advantage he had over Loma and that's a fact. Had they been remotely the same size Loma would've 100% KO'd him early every single time. He hurt his gigantic ass as it is and he was never even slightly rocked in return even though Haney tried to gravely injury him at the weigh in with that violent sucker push and elbowed the crap out of his face all night in the fight.

    There are many other instances of the Soviet School causing the American school major problems, including many robberies in the US

    We can rewind the tape and the skill level, boxing ability and certain other things these modern representatives of the Soviet school do very well has been sorely underrated by many fans who to be perfectly frank don't know what the hell they're looking at


    Kovalev, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, and Usyk have all been criminally underrated by many regarding things they supposedly couldn't do or do near as well as they obviously can if people actually know what they're looking at. But many are blinded by their own biases or what they have been conditioned or told to think.



    Even with Loma who, as said, is way more skillful than Haney but the clowns in the circus act like it's the other way round even though it's completely undeniable

    Why wasn't Bivol ever mentioned when it comes to being one of the very best defensive boxers in the world when he literally gets, or at least not too long ago he did, hit less than everyone else? I told everyone before he was one of the best defensive fighters in the sport but they refused to listen

    Why did so many act like Kovalev, GGG and Beterbiev can't box when they're very good or excellent boxers. They were dismissed by the so called experts as ''crude punchers''

    Usyk stood no chance against AJ in the eyes of many but CST and I told you all long ago that he possessed all the skills and physical attributes to not only cause these giant behemoths fits but that he would/could beat them and we, as has so often been the case, were proven right. Hence why people should take note when we speak when it comes to these hypothetical match ups. So many things we told the forum came to pass but still so many refused to listen because they can't see past their biases and what they've been told to think and believe

    Floyd was a great fighter but he's just too small for GGG who isn't just a puncher. GGG possesses elite level skills, cuts the ring off like no one else, an ATG ramrod jab, ATG chin, and ridiculous ATG power, even more so for his size, so much so he was knocking out and bashing up and hurting elite world champion LHWs and CWs in the gym. Floyd wouldn't even be able to get GGG's respect with his hardest ever shots.

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    Floyd has never felt nor seen power like GGG's in his life and his puny frame is just not designed to withstand that kind of power and there's absolutely no shame in that whatsoever. GGG is one of the hardest punching MWs of all time and he hits like a big punching LHW, and Floyd is a natural 140/small 147. I give Floyd a lot of credit for facing bigger or much bigger guys and unlike gigantic weight bullies Haney and many others he was the antithesis of a weight bully, There's a lot of valid criticisms regarding Floyd but weight bullying is certainly not one of them. Size matters. It matters a lot.

    :lol: That would be an honour and a privilege, Olu. Please make that call to the President of the Oxford Union ASAP
     
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  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Spence had not been knocked down or hurt badly in other fights prior to crawford unlike Jacobs had been. Even still the corner stopped the fight he didn't get knocked out the fight was stopped. Jacobs got ktfo against pirog.
     
  10. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jacobs was TKOd once and KD one other time in entire career...and he's chinny?

    Your boy Floyd was KD by freaking Zab Judah and was hugging for his life against old, shot Mosley...and was headed for another hugfest against Maidana if not for the round ending.
     
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  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Mosley is 3x times faster than ggg with longer reach as well man and after that round how many more times did Shane hit pbf with that same punch? Pbf had the ability to take away your best weapon which is exactly what he would do to ggg. You guys always use the best case scenario for pbfs opponents and the worst case scenarios for him when he always rises to the top unlike ggg.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Floyd would have his shoulder snapped off if he tried his BS on Golovkin
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    When was pbf knocked down against Zab? When did that happen? In your mind??? Undersized Chenko had ggg running all over the ring looking for a place to lie down in their fight. Pbf boxes circles around that plodder.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Lesser fighters than pbf didn't have their shoulder snapped off. But better fighters than ggg got schooled against pbf.:deal:
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    38 year old Mosley is not not 1x faster than GGG.

    Floyd did have that ability - maybe the best to ever do that particular skill - at 147 and below. Floyd was hit plenty by DLH and Cotto at 154 although hardly touched versus Canelo at 152.

    Versus GGG, Floyd would be in trouble. GGG was not near retirement as was the case w DLH. Hell I'm not even sure Floyd beats prime DLH at 147. Cotto was also wayyyyy down on backside of career when Floyd fought him...and Cotto busted Floyd up a few times.

    Were old and shot DLH and Cotto as fast as prime Mosley? Nope. They were also slower than 38 year Mosley, but they still landed. Because, this may be news to you, speed isnt the only factor in landing a punch....surprise.

    BTW GGG has far more power than anyone Floyd fought. Floyd was a master and be in any fight he took...from 130-147. He would lose to a lot at 154 because he just isnt effective there.
     
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