What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

Serge · Dec 12, 2023

GGG was already past his best when he fought ''The Golden Child'' who is one of the most touted US amateurs in recent memory and it took GGG looking human against Brook and him literally bending over backwards agreeing to fight him in his backyard and giving him a big cut of his purse (which was completely undeserved) to entice Jacobs out of the chicken coop

And it took GGG looking human against Brook and Jacobs to entice Clenelo out of the coop and then Clenelo had to jack himself full of PEDs for the rematch to try and stack the deck even more in his favour after GGG whooped his ass in the first fight. He needed to jack himself full of PEDs to fight a past prime old GGG who he was bigger than when he knew he would have the judges in his pocket again

Prior to then he'd been ducked by damn near all the other champs and top boys at 160. The list of names is ridiculous

African Cobra · Dec 12, 2023

Serge said: ↑

Greeting brother, Olu. Good to see you, squire and friend

Au contraire, the schools thing is very very real. The Soviet school is not just confined to EE and Central Asia it greatly influenced the mighty Cubano school too and both the Slavic, Eurasian, and Latino Cubano branches of the tree of that Soviet school have long caused the US school big problems. We've seen this in the amateurs for decades and in the pros for many years too.

I've heard numerous fighters who graduated at the American school openly admit that they find it difficult to fight opponents from the Soviet school because they're not reading from the same textbook as they did in the American school and therefore they do things differently to what they're used too.

Of course the reverse applies too but even if these representatives of Soviet school enlist the services of American trainers they still have a lot of the Soviet school in them because that's the school they learned how to fight in, studied at for many years and graduated in

Think Kovalev vs Ward. Ward was supposed to outbox Kovalev but the supposed puncher who couldn't box Kovalev actually outboxed him.

Loma against against a 20lb heavier six inch longer reach high skill ''next great slickster'' ''The new Floyd'' Haney who is being hailed as the the reincarnation of SRR now despite getting taken to slick school in his own backyard by an old past prime leprechaun half his size.

The skill disparity between them was vast and Haney's ''best jab in the game'' was immediately neutralized from the outset by Loma even though he had a way longer reach than him and the size difference between them was obscene. Haney was reduced to only really being able to land to the body all night and he was crying to his daddy in between rounds that ''he sees everything I'm doing''

The only reason the fight was competitive was because of the obscene size advantage he had over Loma and that's a fact. Had they been remotely the same size Loma would've 100% KO'd him early every single time. He hurt his gigantic ass as it is and he was never even slightly rocked in return even though Haney tried to gravely injury him at the weigh in with that violent sucker push and elbowed the crap out of his face all night in the fight.

There are many other instances of the Soviet School causing the American school major problems, including many robberies in the US

We can rewind the tape and the skill level, boxing ability and certain other things these modern representatives of the Soviet school do very well has been sorely underrated by many fans who to be perfectly frank don't know what the hell they're looking at

Kovalev, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, and Usyk have all been criminally underrated by many regarding things they supposedly couldn't do or do near as well as they obviously can if people actually know what they're looking at. But many are blinded by their own biases or what they have been conditioned or told to think.

Even with Loma who, as said, is way more skillful than Haney but the clowns in the circus act like it's the other way round even though it's completely undeniable

Why wasn't Bivol ever mentioned when it comes to being one of the very best defensive boxers in the world when he literally gets, or at least not too long ago he did, hit less than everyone else? I told everyone before he was one of the best defensive fighters in the sport but they refused to listen

Why did so many act like Kovalev, GGG and Beterbiev can't box when they're very good or excellent boxers. They were dismissed by the so called experts as ''crude punchers''

Usyk stood no chance against AJ in the eyes of many but CST and I told you all long ago that he possessed all the skills and physical attributes to not only cause these giant behemoths fits but that he would/could beat them and we, as has so often been the case, were proven right. Hence why people should take note when we speak when it comes to these hypothetical match ups. So many things we told the forum came to pass but still so many refused to listen because they can't see past their biases and what they've been told to think and believe

Floyd was a great fighter but he's just too small for GGG who isn't just a puncher. GGG possesses elite level skills, cuts the ring off like no one else, an ATG ramrod jab, ATG chin, and ridiculous ATG power, even more so for his size, so much so he was knocking out and bashing up and hurting elite world champion LHWs and CWs in the gym. Floyd wouldn't even be able to get GGG's respect with his hardest ever shots.

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Floyd has never felt nor seen power like GGG's in his life and his puny frame is just not designed to withstand that kind of power and there's absolutely no shame in that whatsoever. GGG is one of the hardest punching MWs of all time and he hits like a big punching LHW, and Floyd is a natural 140/small 147. I give Floyd a lot of credit for facing bigger or much bigger guys and unlike gigantic weight bullies Haney and many others he was the antithesis of a weight bully, There's a lot of valid criticisms regarding Floyd but weight bullying is certainly not one of them. Size matters. It matters a lot.

That would be an honour and a privilege, Olu. Please make that call to the President of the Oxford Union ASAP
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I shall make the call just make sure your buddy CST80 shows up because I am not convinced he is keen. The students at the colleges of Oxford University will be taking notes and for all you know we shall be influencing future Prime ministers and Cabinet members.

Ph33rknot · Dec 12, 2023

Top Dollar said: ↑

i want to to jump in on the baitposting too. why do you guys think mayweather ducked amir khan? was he really so insecure about how to deal with that handspeed?
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Yes yes he did

The Real Lance · Dec 12, 2023

steviebruno said: ↑

If size is the great equalizer, why are we pretending that GGG would be completely unaffected by moving down to 154?
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There's no reason to believe he would. He's weighed in under 160 several times and fought frequently enough to keep himself in shape. Now stick to cheerleading, that's your swim lane.

Ph33rknot · Dec 12, 2023

G don't catch him

Ph33rknot · Dec 12, 2023

Serge said: ↑

GGG was already past his best when he fought ''The Golden Child'' who is one of the most touted US amateurs in recent memory and it took GGG looking human against Brook and him literally bending over backwards agreeing to fight him in his backyard and giving him a big cut of his purse (which was completely undeserved) to entice Jacobs out of the chicken coop

And it took GGG looking human against Brook and Jacobs to entice Clenelo out of the coop and then Clenelo had to jack himself full of PEDs for the rematch to try and stack the deck even more in his favour after GGG whooped his ass in the first fight. He needed to jack himself full of PEDs to fight a past prime old GGG who he was bigger than when he knew he would have the judges in his pocket again

Prior to then he'd been ducked by damn near all the other champs and top boys at 160. The list of names is ridiculous
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Brooks jumped up two weigh classes he deserved a payday

MidniteProwler · Dec 12, 2023

Olu G. Rotimi said: ↑

Hello sir trust you are well. I know you and brother Serge are of independent thinking though your views tend to converge as do my brother the legendary Pimp C. If you guys are up to the challenge let’s debate it academically at the Oxford University Union. Are you up for it? We are right and you are wrong and more importantly God is on our side. There is only One God and he loves Floyd Mayweather as shown by his records and skills. As the saying goes “God made nobody or nothing perfect except for Floyd’s boxing record”.

As for me as the saying goes “If nobody is perfect I must be nobody”.

Forgive me I get sentimental with age but after a trying year with more challenges ahead I want to wish you @CST80, @Serge, @Pimp C , @ellerbe, even that idiot @MidniteProwler and all the other rascals on here a very happy Xmas and prosperous New Year. Boxing is going back the top and we at Eastsideboxing shall be at the forefront. We may not always agree and disagree passionately but it does not negate my love for you all.

From the Right Honourable Lord President of the Council in his official capacity.
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Thank you for acknowledging me Honourable Lord President although I do not agree with you assessment of me as an idiot. If I have hurt your feeling this year I do apologize sometimes great men like us will butt heads and it will create an explosive reaction but nothing but respect my brother.

I had my first sparring session last night since I got back from the US and after having a big night at the 50 Cent concert in Sydney where I met the great man Curtis Jackson himself. I was feeling a bit flat but God gave me the strength to bite down on my mouth guard and push through he has blessed me with great abilities that I will not take for granted. With God's will I will focus next year on passing my knowledge on to the younger generation of fighters. A very Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones and I hope the new year brings you good fortune. Like you said we may not agree on a lot of subjects but we are all a family here at Eastside boxing the home of boxing knowledge where we can always discuss the sweet science at a high level. God bless.
Sincerely, MidniteProwler.

The Real Lance · Dec 12, 2023

steviebruno said: ↑

Floyd has only ever gotten clipped when trading; he wouldn't trade with GGG. I envision a fight in which a frustrated GGG spends the night pounding his short arms against his own chest, showing everyone how big and strong he is while Floyd takes the rounds.
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Frustrates him?? You post so unrealistically it's almost like you've never actually seen Floyd fight. This was written in crayon to be posted on daddy floyd's fridge FFS.

You don't get it. Floyd against the ropes or in the corner, he gets pummeled. He doesn't have the firepower to back off an iron chinned power puncher who also happens to be highly skilled. Like I said, stick to your swim lane cheerleader...

steviebruno · Dec 12, 2023

The Real Lance said: ↑

There's no reason to believe he would. He's weighed in under 160 several times and fought frequently enough to keep himself in shape. Now stick to cheerleading, that's your swim lane.
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"Under 160" isn't the same as 154. LOL

The same poster will tell you that Canelo, who'd fought below 154, was drained by losing another two pounds.

No reason to suspect that GGG could possibly be drained by coming down an entire weight class, though...

"He stayed in shape". LMAO

The Real Lance · Dec 12, 2023

steviebruno said: ↑

"Under 160" isn't the same as 154. LOL

The same poster will tell you that Canelo, who'd fought below 154, was drained by losing another pound.

No reason to suspect that GGG could possibly be drained by coming down an entire weight class, though...
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No **** sherlock. Did you come up with that newsflash yourself?? Who cares what anyone said about Canelo. We aren't talking about canelo. Save your 'whataboutism' for someone else. 'Whataboutism' isn't a real thing kiddo....

steviebruno · Dec 12, 2023

The Real Lance said: ↑

No **** sherlock. Did you come up with that newsflash yourself?? Who cares what anyone said about Canelo. We aren't talking about canelo. Save your 'whataboutism' for someone else. 'Whataboutism' isn't a real thing kiddo....
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You are the same guy, aren't you?

MidniteProwler · Dec 12, 2023

Pimp C said: ↑

Mosley is 3x times faster than ggg with longer reach as well man and after that round how many more times did Shane hit pbf with that same punch? Pbf had the ability to take away your best weapon which is exactly what he would do to ggg. You guys always use the best case scenario for pbfs opponents and the worst case scenarios for him when he always rises to the top unlike ggg.
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Anthony Mundine destroyed Shane Mosley and made him quit. Probably because he was younger bigger and stronger. The same way GGG is younger bigger and stronger than Floyd.

C.J. · Dec 12, 2023

Manfred said: ↑

GGG would have gotten his ass embarrassed like Canelo.
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Roflmao Floyd is used to being embarrassed I think. Remember him freaking out when he saw Margarito standing in front of him ???? He was so scared he **** himself. Imagine him seeing Margarito across the ring banging his gloves together with an evil grin on his face. He'd run for the exit lol

C.J. · Dec 12, 2023

BCS8 said: ↑

Pity Ward never signed to fight him at 168 then
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Ward couldn't have made 168 back then He was all mouth & little else

MidniteProwler · Dec 12, 2023

C.J. said: ↑

Ward couldn't have made 168 back then He was all mouth & little else
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I used to like American fighters like Floyd and Ward when I was younger but as I have matured and been involved heavily in boxing the last several years I can see things I never used to pay attention to like their cheating ways and stacking the deck in their favor. Yes they were both great fighters but a lot of that is smoke and mirrors when not everything is above board. Andre Ward talks like he is Sugar Ray Leonard but in reality he was just a poor mans Bernard Hopkins.

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