Haney was 165lbs vs Prograis

"to make oneself a reprehensibly sleazy, deck stacking, detestable, manipulative pariah and a poisonous malignant presence, that's spreads like dry rot in this sport, strangling it to death from the inside."

It's all about perspective and understanding. What's a profitable quality? What's a losing quality? What's an aspirational quality?

 

Yeah but he’s a unified lightweight champion, he just shut out a light welterweight champion. He’s moving up and winning, he’s undefeated.

It seems that you have the Manny Pacquiao syndrome.

 

How on earth did he make 135?

That couldnt have been healthy.

 

Yes, it was 36 hours. Was the morning BEFORE the televised weigh in.

Im sure Prograis was happy to have it early too. Its not like he was small at the weight himself.

 

Good on him. He made weight, that's all that counts.


Smart.

 

It's all water weight. It's still weight but all water. The guy makes weight and is healthy during the fight to perform well. If he was draining he wouldn't be winning. I don't believe in weight bullies

 

Exactly, what’s the counter argument?

 

Totally agree. I'm the same, used to love this sport but now all I do is moan about it.. used to be a regular forum contributor, avidly followed the careers of numerous fighters, devored the boxing history books etc .. but now I'm on auto pilot with the sport, dip in & out.. not really arsed about any fighters & have nothing but disdain for the machinations of the game.. why watch when the outcomes are almost pre determined & the weight classes are pretty much meaningless? I genuinely think the sport is in major decline now & MMA will ultimately be its death knell. It's eating itself alive..

 

Crawford got that Victor Conte too

 

Draining that much is just a scumbag mentality.
He's so desperate to have the size advantage because he's a coward.
People always claim boxers can't be cowards because they 'get in the ring'. But so many clearly are, because 'bully' tactics are coward tactics.
There's big cuts then there's just scumbag cuts.
Imagine knowing that every single fighter is smaller than you, everyone you spar etc., because you're so desperate to avoid opponents your own size.
What an utter disgrace.
And yes, to cut that much and be functional he's definitely getting 'help'.

 

I generally dislike the topic of "weight bullying" because my thing is if you make the weight (without shenanigans), you make the weight but gaining 25 lbs just re-hydrating is very, very questionable to me, it's something I side eye. 10 lbs, even 15............ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, 25 lbs is crazy.

Now with that being said, that ain't why he beat Prograis, he dominated him at range and laterally. But gaining that amount of weight..............yeah, nah.

 

This,,,,, Haney is playing the game by the rules already in play. I've said it a dozen times or more, go back to weighing in on fight day and you'll see no more of this kind of thing. Probably be a major shift of fighters into higher weight classes overnight.

 

How much did Prograis weigh?