Who were the most dangerous punchers Wlad faced during his championship run?

Wlad was dropped sixteen times by seven fighters outside of his championship run (Pannell, Puritty x2, Sanders x4, Brewster x2, Williamson, Peter x3, Joshua x3), suffering four KO defeats but he wasn’t dropped or stopped once in his twenty fights from Byrd 2 to Fury. Wlad’s greater ability to stay off the canvas from 2006-2015 was due to a combination of defensive improvements (legal and illegal), home/A-side advantage (17/20 fights in Europe) and in my opinion, not fighting many dangerous punchers.

6’2, 213 lbs Haye was Wlad’s most dangerous punching challenger. Aside from surviving, Haye was pursuing a KO strategy.

After Haye it’s difficult to say. Possibly 6’1, 226 lbs Povetkin. But gold medallist Povetkin failed to drop or stop 8 of his 26 pre-Wlad opponents, his most impressive stoppage being the 11th round standing TKO over a non-concussed, previously twice KO’d, blown-up LHW Byrd. And when Povetkin fought Wlad he was nullified by 184 clinches.

Haye and Povetkin were Wlad’s most lucrative and prestigious opponents during his winning streak and he failed to KO them, yet he didn’t rematch either of them (both of whom scored impressive KO’s against solid opponents post-Wlad) and he often elected to face unknown and/or unranked opponents such as Mormeck, Thompson 2, Wach, Pianeta and Leapai (6'2.5, 235 lbs power puncher Ortiz by contrast was never offered a fight).

 

Povetkin is a dangerous puncher, knocked Price into the next realm and knocked out Whyte

 

Everyone Christian Hammer level or above knocked Price out, some much quicker than Povetkin and Whyte's chin is glass when it comes to a good uppercut, or even a glancing one. The post-Wlad Povetkin was also significantly more chiselled and seemingly explosive than the pre-Wlad version.

 

still on about wlad huh

 

Yes, he seems to think there was a need / demand / obligation for Wlad to rematch Haye and Povetkin.

Wlad's score against Haye:
117-109...116-110...118-108

Wlad's score against Pov:
119-104...119-104...119-104


He reminds me of Churchill's definition of a fanatic....

A man who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

 

Haye was dangerous, did land in the last round I remember, gave Wlad a shiner, but Wlad was surprisingly confident of handling him in that one, maybe because his brother kept saying Haye was a cruiser.
He was more scared of Povetkin I think, since he cheated the entire fight.
As for Churchill, he was an alcoholic war monger who wanted to use bioweapons on the German population at one point and also initiated the bombing of European cities in WW2, but was always safe out of London when the bombs came.

 

Perhaps Haye shaking Wlad up in the last round is what cost him the rematch! Wlad wanted to KO Haye, didn't like the toe excuse, rematch was very lucrative yet it didn't happen for some reason. I guess everyone wanted to see the Wach and Pianeta fights instead.

Povetkin was easier to cheat than Haye given he ran straight at Wlad, like the inferior pressure fighters Wlad also clinched a lot. Haye had more height and reach than Povetkin and tried to lunge in with a haymaker from the outside or counter, so there were far fewer clinching opportunities for Wlad but he still had a point deducted by his home ref.

I think Povetkin being Russian made pro-Western Wlad even more risk averse than usual and even less inclined to give him a rematch.

 

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Wlad should count himself lucky Leapai never fully connected with his signature punch being the "Samoan Bowler". Skip to 32:12

 

Haye, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Peter, and Brewster. Rahman, but he was shot.

 

Priceless quote! thanks

 

You're obsessed.

 

Not sure what any of this has to do with RB's obsession with Wlad.

 

"Yes, he seems to think there was a need / demand / obligation for Wlad to rematch Haye and Povetkin"

That's not my point at all. It's that those were highly lucrative potential fights with some intrigue (wanted to KO Haye in a rematch in particular, broken toe excuse, hideous foul-ridden Povetkin fight, competitive fights with fair officials, both in impressive form post-Wlad) which would have significantly strengthened his record if victorious. Wlad blatantly swerved these rematches in order to fight knockovers like Pianeta and Leapai. I can only assume it's because he seriously lacked confidence in his chin, which is entirely rational considering the 13 KD's and 3 KO's suffered in his 20's.

My threads are publicly available and only a small minority are about Wlad in particular. I am an obsessive but I'm not fanatical about Wlad, that's projection. Hence for instance you pretend that there was nothing controversial about the Povetkin box-wrestling farce. That is rabid fanboyism and fanaticism.

 

This tells us all we need to hear.

Wlad blatantly swerved two opponents who he already defeated by wide margins ?

In one case, he won every round and scored three KDs for a 15 point margin of victory.

In the other, he won 8-4, 9-3. and 10-2..

The toe excuse ?

Haye has been laughed at for years for mentioning his 'glass toe.'

Haye's performance in the bout was abysmal, totally unwilling to engage. There was NO DEMAND WHATSOEVER for a rematch.



I can only assume it's because he seriously lacked confidence in his chin,

This points not only to you being obsessed with Wlad, but also frankly to being a clown.

His chin was never tested by either man, one of whom avoided engaging for most of the fights and the other whose only strategy was to bull-rush in with his head down.

The idea that anyone wanted to see these "lucrative" rematches exists only in the mind of an obsessed dilettante.

 

"NO DEMAND WHATSOEVER for a rematch."

All caps doesn't make it true I'm afraid. There was vastly more demand for Haye 2 and Povetkin 2 (with fair officiating) after they had KO'd Chisora and Takam respectively than there was for fights with "bums of the month" Wach, Pianeta, Leapai etc. Wlad didn't take the far more lucrative and prestigious fights because he was afraid of getting KO'd by the much smaller men. The idea that he always looked for the best fights is ludicrous.