Ricky Hatton to be inducted into the Hall of Fame

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  1. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Name me one fighter who didn't want to fight floyd or pac in america for the payday
    Any fighter takes them fights
    Does he own a british title out right
    Did he fight his british rival
    Did he pass the wbu off to his fans as a legit world title
    Did he say floyd was crass with cash
    To then become crass with cash
    Wicky fooled a lot of people
     
  2. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    I respect your opinion. And am happy to respond in the spirit of sensible debate.
    Name me one fighter who didn't want to fight floyd or pac in america for the payday
    My point was that he didn't HAVE to take those fights. Particularly the Mayweather one (which was not at his natural weight). Yes they were big money spinners. But he could easily have made a career fighting softer touches with home advantage in Europe, thank you very much. I'm reminded of his British counterpart of that era, Joe Calzaghe, who defended his title mostly in the UK and didn't - for whatever reason - fight the marquee names of his era until they were past their best (well past his best in the case of Jones Jr). Or go to America until the tail-end of his career (should you consider that important).
    Does he own a british title out right
    No, but is that a pre-requisite for getting into the HOF? Naseem Hamed, for example, did not.
    Did he fight his british rival
    No. And (I presume you're talking about Junior Witter here) that would have been a good fight - and a very dangerous one for Hatton.
    Did he pass the wbu off to his fans as a legit world title
    He did operate, sadly, in that era where there was a proliferation of world titles. And that doesn't help. But, in fairness, he never claimed to be 'the man ' until he best Tszyu.
    Did he say floyd was crass with cash To then become crass with cash
    Again I'd argue this is largely irrelevant to the argument, as is the British title \ WBU issue. I did say I didn't want to get into a discussion about the how's and why's of whether he should be in the HOF - which I think is what your argument is about.
    I'm not saying there aren't things he should have done better or people he should have fought that he didn't. They are all fair points. But I am saying that he did enough in his career to be recognised by his peers and showed a willingness to fight the best when they were still highly regarded. He is often, in my view, harshly criticised. So I am happy for him that he is getting his moment in the sun.
     
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  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    So he swerved the best on his own isle to land massive money fights to fight the best america and the Philippines had to offer
    Shyteing all over britain and the boxing fans once again
    We agree it seems

    That was my point I'm sure of it
     
  4. zulander

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    OR he gave boxing fans as a whole 3 big fights against Kosta, Pac and Mayweather..
    All 3 were better than Witter ever was and if you like traveling and going to the US to see your fighter take a crack well you could do that support Hatton. (for the record I always though Hattons stamina, strength and under rated foot speed would probably have beaten Witter but it would have been an excellent fighter especially with Hattons weakness to leftie's which Witter could exploit when switching)

    Lots of fighter don't fight the divisional rival. Khan and Brook only did it for a retirement payday when the fight was long gone
    Fury and Joshua don't look like they will.
    Mayweather never for what ever reason faced Khan which would have been a decent fight and a money spinner.
    How many fighters avoided GGG at his best.

    It's disappointing he didn't face Witter, He spent too long fighting over the hill fighters but he did beat some excellent fighters, 1 ATG and a few belt holders a long the way while gambling on being Elite. Fell short to the the best of his era. Nowt to be ashamed off. Had great support, thousands supported him home and away (half the reason I think he gets in to HOF I think) but he was a good, good fighter.
     
  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Football fans
    Yes they all duck each other scared of hirting future paydays as well as not having the metal to lose to your home rival
    Khan knew this
    Joe knew this
    Hatton knew this
    Lennox though
    Eubank though
    Benn though
    Collins though
    Froch though
    Ricky burns though

    Khan murray
    Hatton witter
    Joe froch
    All protected for large parts
    But you guessed it fish eyes
    Fury will fall in this bracket
    Give the british paying fans the fights they want
    You know how the second fight between froch and groves was forced through public opinion
    Not to fwanks fighters though

    Lol at khan fighting mayweather
    That right there tells me all I need to know
     
  6. kevin-novice

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    Cause khan won the poll that Mayweather put up himself. Mayweather ducked khan
     
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  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Lol you mean people that wouldn't have bough the fight
    Khan's Twitter fans
    Real boxing fans polled higher ever where khan didnt send his internet army
    True story
    Check the one where khan point blank refused to fight maidana
    Oscar had to sit him down and tell him man up
     
  8. kevin-novice

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    Thought khan did fight maidana??

    Still say Mayweather shat it by not fighting khan.
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    He did crying
    Asking oscar not to let ot happen
    You know who got battered in that fight
    Running like ****
     
  10. kevin-novice

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    Thought that was khan's best win tbh. It won fight of the year 2010. I'm guessing you are just a khan hater for no real reason.
     
  11. Throwback

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    He should have fought Witter though.


    That fight should have generated a few quid, a domestic crossroads fight always does, and Witter was WBC champion at the time.

    But Witter with his fast hands, switch hitting and slashing punches, just might, might, have been too high a risk Vs reward.
     
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  12. Sonny1

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    At that time he decided to box Castillo instead, which was his second best win and generated more than the aforementioned few quid. Then he got Mayweather. Witter fight was never going to happen, however agree it’s a shame they never boxed. Witter had a chance to step up when he boxed Judah and he stank the place out. Hatton was building an exciting career, I could see it was never going to happen.

    I remember when Witter made his first defence at York Hall, there was no one there. It was embarrassing for a WBC champion when at the time the belt still meant something.
     
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  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    So you're telling me he took that fight willingly
    Why wouldn't he rematch him
    Hater > fanboy
     
  14. Throwback

    Throwback "Somebody wake up Hicks" Full Member

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    Plus iirc, he gatecrashed a Hatton post fight ringside chat, which pissed Hatton off, and I remember him saying he wouldn't give Witter a payday, which I thought was a bull**** excuse.


    Personally, I thought that his team knew Witter was far too risky, especially with Hatton having such fragile skin.

    I remember the Judah fight, it was awful, but it was Witter's first foray into world class, and he went onto a ridiculous tear of stoppages after that.


    You're right though, Hattons career was on a different trajectory.


    Still I think it's a shame it didn't happen.
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    And hatton said **** the british boxing fans
    Give me the money whilst I pick and choose who to fight
    But he wanted the infamous green belt when mayweather had it
    And it went about the money he said
    Urrmmm it was