Pacquiao the only modern fighter to have these qualities?

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  1. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Yes you win. Can't fight with that logic.
     
  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your thread talked about elite speed/elite stamina/elite power. Inoue has all of those.

    And what does workrate matter? Inoue stops all of his opponents
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shane Mosley ? lightning speed, big puncher, and definitely good workrate at his best.
     
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  4. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Came to me as well, but can his workrate be called elite?
     
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess it depends on what your criteria is for elite ? no Mosley isn't a whirling dervish throwing 80 or 90 punches a round. But he's shown good workrate overall and come on strong late in fights.

    He finished strong in both ODLH fights, he stopped Mayorga in the last round, he stopped Rivera in the last round, he came on strong late vs Vargas in their 1st fight, his workrate vs Margarito was consistently good in regards to throwing hard punches consistently for 9 rounds.

    I think pretty much anytime Mosley lost when he was near his best he just got shut down by fighters like Forrest, Wright, who were bad style match ups for him and he didn't really know how to adjust.

    But his workrate and his strong finishes late in fights have always been good to me.
     
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  6. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roberto Duran is the closest that I can think of.
     
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  7. steviebruno

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    His stamina was never great and this became more glaring as he moved up in weight. He was way too frenetic.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Not great ? did you not see my examples in the other post ? he had numerous examples of coming on strong late in fights and even stopped a few fighters in the last round of fights.

    His stamina was never a problem it was the fact he couldn't adjust when he got shut down by a certain style.
     
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  9. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Well if you're a midget below featherweight then you automatically already have speed and stamina since these guys throw over 1000 punches a fight, you're automatically in the category if you have power. Guys like Sung Kil Moon and Nonito Donaire had these qualities.

    But as far as above featherweight? Aaron Pryor is the closest maxing out all 3 qualities. The man hit like a horse(90% KO percentage), was extremely quick and had stamina for days(whether cheating or not)
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Elite speed and workrate means elite for the weight class.
     
  11. No_name_tard

    No_name_tard Active Member Full Member

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    Pryor was the other guy that came to mind, but he wasn't a murderous puncher or his reputation isn't of the sort historically, irrespective of his KO percentage.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think (in his prime) that Pacquiao was ever in a fight where the other man had more power, speed or work rate. Marquez came close to matching him for power. And Ledwaba came close to matching him for speed. But that's really all.
     
  13. Showstopper97

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  14. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What’s interesting is you thinking Pacquiao had access to some PEDs no one else did.
     
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  15. Djokovic.GOAT

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    Inoue is better in everything than Pac.