Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Dec 14, 2023.


Higher ring IQ

Poll closed Dec 21, 2023.
  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

    81.5%
  2. Terence Crawford

    18.5%
  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather fought Maidana at almost 37 years old after being a pro for almost 20 years, and when has Crawford stopped someone of Castillo's level ? Shawn Porter who hadn't fought in over a year and was on verge of retirement ? a past it Kell Brook who's eye got mangled by Golovkin ? Crawford has never stopped anyone as good as a prime Jose Luis Castillo, and it would be his 2nd best win on his resume had he beat Castillo.

    A Spence who had been in two car crashes and only fought 4 times in 4 years is better than any win on Mayweather's resume ? nah i don't think so buddy.
     
  2. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Madiabna is ?
     
  3. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he's an ATG
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would love to see that fight. Great fantasy fight.
     
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree with that last point. I think he's in the 2nd group.
     
  6. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Debateable. To put this in perspective, Buddy and Meldrick would be top 5 p4p in this era.
     
  7. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has Crawford even beat a fighter as good as Judah?
     
  8. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spence was that
     
  9. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Meldeick and buddy were better than Spence. Buddy arguably drew with Pernell the first fight and Meldeick was beating Chavez before getting stupid. I don't see Spence, let alone anyone in this era, beimg.competitive against Pernell and Chavez Se
     
  10. Boxed Ears

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    They have a saying in arboriculture. "Floyds don't grow on trees."
    You'd think it would be a saying in boxing but it's mostly in arboriculture. It was coined by a non-arboriculturist named Victor Ortiz.
     
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  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    DOCTOR Victor Ortiz.
     
  12. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So...are you on drugs?

    JLC was TKOd 4 times prior to fighting Floyd and 3 times after fighting Floyd. JLC just wasnt that good of a fighter even if he gave Floyd hell. Every fighter has a vulnerable style and Floyd did not handle pressure fighters with roughhouse tactics well. Sorry if thats news to you.

    Also, Spence and Porter and Postol and Gamboa and Mean Machine are all better than JLC. Maybe more too, but those are the only definite.

    And, to be clear, prime Floyd LOST to JLC in a narrow decision.

    What do car crashes have anything to do with boxing? WTF? Spence dominated Danny and Spence stopped Ugas before the Crawford fight and the car accidents happened before those fights...but it wasnt a problem then lmao

    And that was the same Spence that slapped Floyd around sparring...so yah, bro, yah
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I don't take drugs simpleton.

    JLC stopped 3 or 4 times prior to fighting Mayweather ? Obviously your a casual looking up on Boxrec something you accused me of even though you called McCallum "a basic fighter from highlights" if that isn't the biggest casual comment I don't know what it is. Castillo was never off his feet and that was early in his career.

    Castillo not that good of a fighter ? Oh dear why am I wasting time discussing a topic with someone who hasn't got a clue ?

    What do car crashes have to do with boxing ? I'm not even going to answer that with a serious reply if you honestly can't work that out for yourself.

    Gamboa at Lightweight is better than Castillo are you serious ? Porter better than Castillo dear me....nah I'm sorry I can't read anymore I'm actually losing braincells, I'm done with this conversation you don't know what you're talking about my guy and that showed with McCallum comment in another thread I'm done bye.
     
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  14. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you make this drawn out post attacking Bud's resume because some of his opponents werent perfect:

    And you say JLC is better than any of those fighters because some of them had losses or had inactivity periods, but you cant apply the same principle to JLC who, like Porter, Spence, Gamboa, Postol, or pretty much any fighter ever, had periods of inactivity or been hurt or lost, etc.

    Essentially your post boils down to a, "trust me bro." Why you want to die on this JLC hill I have no idea, but JLC was not an ATG and is not a HOF in a world where Arturo Gatti is a HOF fighter. JLC was never more than a contender and only became champion at all because its a 4 belt era. That's the reality...sorry if it doesnt fit in your Floyd colored shades.

    Is what it is, lil fella
     
  15. ILikeBoxingForRealz

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    Love, like, hate or debate, but Floyd was a ring genius. Knew where he was at all times
     
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